I think I need to clarify:

I am not being unfair to Larry's point when I say JDBC is faster. You can't 
build ontop of JDBC
and then be faster than what you built upon. Reflection is slower than normal 
Java access - and if
I can find the stats I will show them.

With that said, IBATIS can be "faster" by its built-in caching so that you 
don't have to hit the
database on every DAO method. That's true. I use caching myself -- and with 
IBATIS!

My point was a narrow point -- on DB access with no thrills, JDBC will always 
be the fastest since
its the most featureless - it is the base standard for ORM tools themselves.

I think Larry's point and my point are the same, with differing emphasis. I 
hope I've been fair :)

-- Paul


        
                
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