On 12/16/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > unreasonable. Is Struts an umbrella for two different paths, Shale and > Action Framework, or is Shale really potentially the next Struts? I do > think there is a contradiction there.
One of the core Apache beliefs is that "Darwin decides". An ASF project does not have an "alpha geek" that makes all the decisions. We come to decisions collaboratively over time. One of the reasons we like to give new proposals and codebases names is because we don't want to decide until we see the code and try it for ourselves. It's very possible, even probable, that Ti will be the next Action, but, until we see more of the code, and migrate some of our own applications, we're reluncant to drop the codename. If we were subject to a marketing department, we might do things differently. But, we are all just engineers here, making decisions based on engineering principles alone. I know that some people think we should make decisions based on marketing principles. But I don't believe the committers came here for the marketing. We came here to collaborate on the engineering. We aren't Sun and we aren't Microsoft, or even Linus. We aren't going to tell you what product you should be using in your own application. That's your decision. We like to share our own engineering decisions with the group, but, only because we are always looking for new people to collaborate with us on the engineering. >From an engineering perspective, being able to work on both Shale/JSF and Action/JSP is an exciting idea. The frameworks are different in many ways, but alike in many others. Moving forward, I think we can find many places where the frameworks can share more code and more ideas. As always, we are still inventing the future. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
