I can't say I've been very active on this list, but I used to read it carefully. I find that I am now only giving it a cursory glance. I originally joined because I had intended to create a wedding guest management webapp for my own user for planning my wedding. (I wrote a prototype with JSP and a tag library.)
Well, that was over two years ago and I've been married for more than a year now, and the webapp never did get off the ground. I still have some intention of developing it anyway, but I am not going to use Struts. Or Faces, Springs, Tiles, Shale, Hibernate, iBatis, JSP, or even Java. I gave up on Java for GUI work some time ago, having done significant development with AWT (1.0 and 1.1) and Swing and found it frustrating at best (no, I haven't tried SWT). On the other hand, I was impressed with JSP and servlets and the frameworks around them. Now, though, I am giving up on it as a web development platform as well. I almost unsubscribed when I started using ASP.NET at work, and discovered the real pleasure of C# and the ASP.NET web control system. (Oh, the misery of Beans as compared to real reflectable properties!) I was sufficiently wary of the vendor lockin involved to want to remain abreast of Java web development, however. I have now gotten into Ruby, and I am so impressed with it as a language and Ruby on Rails as a web development platform that I see little reason to bother with Java at all anymore, much less Struts. I am not writing this as evangelism, a troll, or flamebait. I could have just quietly unsubscribed. Instead, I wanted to give the list some sense of why someone would give up on Struts. It isn't just some failing of Struts itself (though most of my initial difficulties when I was trying to port my webapp prototype to Struts involved shortcomings in documentation, despite the various online documentation and having purchased _Struts_Kickstart_), but of Java as well. I am unsubscribing now, so I will not see any responses to this sent only to the Struts list. If you have a response you think would interest me (and I assure you, flames do not interest me), feel free to CC me or send me email directly. It's been fun and, often, highly informative. Best wishes to everyone. --Greg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]