Just a quick follow up on a message I sent long, long ago.

The new configuration document at
http://synapse.apache.org/Synapse_Configuration_Language.html seems much
improved -- some good ground-level explanations of structure, examples, a
basic explanation of what Axis2 is doing there, and so on.

Now, that being said, one small critique:  because of the way it is laid
out, it won't print reasonably from some certain browsers made by a vendor
whose name begins with "M" unless you print it in landscape mode.  It would
be really nice to see a PDF of this thing.

(The Quick Start guide has the same kind of issue).

Overall, though, a really nice job.  Keep up the good work.

Jay Jaeger

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaeger, Jay 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:54 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: any news about new version of synapse?


I would like to add my voice to those who have expressed interest in JDBC as
an interface/transport for synapse.

We have a number of systems in our organization which interact in an
unstructured way, by reading from and writing to each others' databases.  We
have found that in trying to institute more of an SOA approach, that it has
been very hard to convince projects to invest even modest amounts of time to
build or user service interfaces.  The single biggest reason I am following
developments of synapse is a hope that if we could expose those databases in
a more structured way, by coupling an HTTP service to a JDBC SQL Query (with
data in our out) we could "lift" these interactions out of application code
into service interfaces without having to write code.  Once we have some
services, the client side requesting the service will probably fall into
place, and once we do that, then I think it will be easier to get folks to
define higher level service interfaces.

But we have to start somewhere, and getting started has proved challenging.

I would a;lso point out the need for some higher level documentation /
tutorial.  The tutorial is great for installation verification, and as code
examples, but is not so great for trying to figure out what synapse might
actually be good for, or for understanding what all the pieces do.  (For
example, a newbie might ask, what the heck is Axis2, anyway....).
Ordinarily, it is the kind of thing I might volunteer to dig in and do, but
with a full time "day job" plus teaching a 3 credit course at the local tech
school in Linux (with labs and all that -- coming to another 12 hours/week
including class time), I just won't have the time.

JRJ

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