Hi, As stated, we need to look at this on the website to see what works. The fonts used for #4 are problematic in that context and for reading in generar. Variants using the Telex font (same as the headers on the website) in different variants: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTTVBDZGVaOGdoYU0
If using two colors on the text: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTRW9lSThBSmstYm8 I'd tone down the black a bit so it fits in better in context: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Amanda Moran <amanda.mo...@esgyn.com> wrote: > -1 all same color. > > I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to > remove Apache .... But I still like it the way it is > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to > read about it? > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: > >> It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as >> compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet. I >> feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion. >> >> Rohit >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> >> Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00) >> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >> >> I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the >> dragon and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. >> >> I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the >> word APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). >> >> With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the >> "power by Apache" logo, see URL here >> <http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication >> of "Apache". >> >> It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. >> >> Thanks --Qifan >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >>> -1 >>> >>> Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. >>> >>> Rohit >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >>> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. >>> >>> A simple change: >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gunnar >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Option 4!! >>>> >>>> Trina >>>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would >>>> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out >>>> and I'm not fond of it overall... >>>> >>>> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at >>>> all.... >>>> >>>> Thanks Ken! >>>> >>>> -Carol P. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter: @CarolP222 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them >>>>> both. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements >>>>>> look. The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again >>>>>> J >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>>>>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more >>>>>> professional >>>>>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Weishiun >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>>>>> but with the placement of option 6. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, either one is fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 option 4 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 option 4 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked >>>>>> that. >>>>>> >>>>>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Option 4 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Option 6 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my >>>>>> limited field testing! >>>>>> >>>>>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>>>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >>>>>> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a >>>>>> different >>>>>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >>>>>> well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with >>>>>> another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures >>>>>> on >>>>>> the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still >>>>>> not my favorite). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hans >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original >>>>>> is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of >>>>>> quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on >>>>>> something. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon >>>>>> and post another version of that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 on dragon. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson < >>>>>> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >>>>>> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda >>>>>> did)? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' >>>>>> is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the >>>>>> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the >>>>>> dragon >>>>>> carries. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> St.Ack >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Carol P. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Twitter: @CarolP222 >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>>>>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 for Dragon. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework >>>>>> the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and >>>>>> complicated with the cursive. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +10 for dragon! Very cute! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else >>>>>> likes... I give it a +0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements >>>>>> really well the yellow elephant! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> -clr >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and >>>>>> o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t >>>>>> have that issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM >>>>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Logo Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Apache Trafodion needs a logo. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite >>>>>> some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days >>>>>> of >>>>>> Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a >>>>>> logo >>>>>> that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a >>>>>> simple cute dragon. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose >>>>>> that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dragon standalone - >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing >>>>>> >>>>>> Trafodion name & dragon - >>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and >>>>>> a’s look too similar. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? Should we vote on this? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Amanda Moran >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Gunnar >>>>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gunnar >>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, --Qifan >> >> > > > -- > Regards, --Qifan > > -- Thanks, Gunnar *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
