I'm just confused with this whole process. Documentation states vcl creates
virtual images automatically, how is that accomplished? I'm at the step
where I added the vcenter system, which I'm not certain is configured
properly but I'm moving forward anyway. So how do I go about creating the
base image now, so I use an existing VM in my vcenter cluster?


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John Peters <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Josh,
>
> I appreciate all the help. I guess I need to wait for Andy or Aaron to
> Chime in as I'm kind of stuck at this point. Wish there were some
> instructions on setting up vcl with vcenter system. Thanks again
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Josh Thompson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
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>> John,
>>
>> You need to create a "computer" for your vCenter system.  It's not
>> actually
>> referring to a real computer or VM, but the vCenter system.  VCL started
>> out
>> with virtualization only doing direct control of hypervisors.  So, they
>> had
>> computer entries.  It just worked out to be the simplest thing to have a
>> vCenter installation be a "computer".  So, if you have not created this
>> yet,
>> you'll need to go to Manage Computers->Edit Computer Information->Add
>> Single
>> Computer to create it.
>>
>> Every resource in VCL has an owner.  This ensures there is someone that
>> can
>> manage the resource if administrative rights to that resource have not
>> been
>> granted to it by having it in a resource group.  So, the owner would be
>> the
>> account you use to log in to your VCL system.
>>
>> I'm not sure of a good set of instructions for configuring VCL with a
>> vCenter
>> system.
>>
>> One other thing - you'll need to install the perl vsphere sdk for perl on
>> your
>> management node if you haven't done that yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 05, 2013 9:30:21 AM John Peters wrote:
>> > Thanks Josh. So far I have not added anything to manage computers so I
>> just
>> > have add single computer and multiple computer. When you refer to "the
>> > computer" you have created for your vcenter are you specifically
>> referring
>> > to the physical server that we have that is running vcenter?  I'm
>> following
>> > the directions at the link below but it seems not to be geared towards
>> > using vcenter. What would the owner field be? Thanks for all your help.
>> >
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL
>> > +2.3+-+Further+Steps+if+Using+VMware
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Josh Thompson <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
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>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > First, you need to create a new VM Host Profile or modify an existing
>> one
>> > > to
>> > > match your setup.  When using vCenter, you need to set a Resource
>> Path.
>> > >
>> > >  Hover
>> > >
>> > > over the ? icon next to that field for a description of how to set it.
>> > > You
>> > > can leave the Image field blank.  You will need to set a value for
>> each of
>> > > the
>> > > * items.  You'll also need to fill in the Username and Password
>> fields.
>> > >
>> > > Next, you need to go to Manage Computers->Edit Computer Information
>> and
>> > > click
>> > > Edit next to the "computer" you have created for your vCenter system.
>>  Set
>> > > the
>> > > Provisioning Engine to "None", the State to "vmhostinuse", and set
>> the VM
>> > > Host
>> > > Profile to the one you just configured in the previous step.  The
>> > > information
>> > > you found about setting the computer to the vmhostinuse state in the
>> > > database
>> > > is outdated.  You'll want to set the RAM for the system to something
>> quite
>> > > high as VCL does not overbook the RAM of a VM host.  So, for a vCenter
>> > > "Host"
>> > > you need to set it to the combined RAM of all the nodes under vCenter
>> > > (note
>> > > to other reading this - increasing this value for a non vCenter host
>> to
>> > > force
>> > > overbooking does not work because vcld will later update the RAM to
>> the
>> > > real
>> > > value of the node).
>> > >
>> > > I'm not as familiar with how VCL works with vCenter clusters as others
>> > > are.
>> > > The Resource Path may be what distinguishes this.  Andy or Aaron C.
>> can
>> > > probably give more info.
>> > >
>> > > Josh
>> > >
>> > > On Monday, November 04, 2013 4:28:02 PM John Peters wrote:
>> > > > I'm reading some more posts and starting to gain a better
>> understanding.
>> > >
>> > > So
>> > >
>> > > > from what I have read, I need to manage computers then choose either
>> > >
>> > > blade
>> > >
>> > > > lab or virtual machine. What I'm confused about is I read on this
>> list
>> > >
>> > > that
>> > >
>> > > > vcl can see vcenter as one big host so I can take advantage of
>> vmotion
>> > >
>> > > etc.
>> > >
>> > > > DO I choose lab for type and then per the instructions edit it to
>> > > > cmwareinuse? basically I'm trying to use the vmware vcenter
>> profile. I'm
>> > > > just not clear by reading the documentation. Thanks. Any help is
>> > > > appreciated.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, John Peters <[email protected]>
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > Well, I found the below link  whichs helps but basically I want
>> to be
>> > > > > able to turn on DRS and vmotion from the vshpere client so do I
>> need a
>> > > > > vcenter host profile or do I need a profile for each host under
>> that
>> > > > > cluster.  SO if my datacenter is PMA 440 -> Academic Cluster under
>> > > > > vsphereclient , would the resource path be / PMA 440/Academic
>> Cluster
>> > > > > ?
>> > > > > do the spaces matter?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > link was very helpful thank you
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VMware+Configuration
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:53 PM, John Peters <[email protected]
>> >
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> Hello all.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I'm at the point in my vcl install where I need to add vm hosts.
>> In
>> > >
>> > > our
>> > >
>> > > > >> vcenter we have three Clusters, I'd like to add this VCL to the
>> > > > >> "Academic" Cluster. I'm not 100% sure on what fields I need to
>> fill
>> > > > >> in
>> > > > >> under Virtual Hosts -> VM Host profiles. DO i need to choose
>> > > > >> VcenterProfile and if so, Basically we have a shared iscsi
>> network
>> > > > >> storage and the three esxi hosts 5.1 are connected to the
>> "Academic"
>> > > > >> cluster. I'm not to sure on what to put in Resource path
>> VMworking
>> > > > >> Directory Path. Any help or sample configurations are
>> appreciated.
>> > > > >> perhaps some screen shots would help.
>> > >
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