I’d be willing to offer some of my spare time towards this effort. Jonathan Wong
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <jor...@jordanzimmerman.com> > wrote: > > A fresh look at APIs is definitely in order. So, this would be a potential > ZK 4.x. > >> That said, we added things like rest in the past for similar reasons and it >> never really took off... Would be a shame to see the same here. > > ZK has had a lot more activity with recent committers. So, maybe this time > will be different? If at least one other person will sign up to work on it, > I'll shepherd it. > > -JZ > >> On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> There are quite a few benefits to using grpc imo. It's come up a few times >> where I've been part of the discussion - ala we make it b/w compat it would >> be a good move imo. Then the question becomes what else do we fix at the >> same time? e.g. make version fields 64 bit rather than 32? etc... there are >> a bunch of zk4 such jiras that could be addressed at the same time (and >> likely in a b/w compat way - ie zk3) >> >> That said, we added things like rest in the past for similar reasons and it >> never really took off... Would be a shame to see the same here. >> >> Patrick >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 6:48 AM Jordan Zimmerman <jor...@jordanzimmerman.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> That looks like great work. In order to address the issues, why not >>> build on top of curator (https://curator.apache.org)? >>> >>> (Note: I'm the main author of Curator). I'd definitely try to make >>> something like Curator for gRPC. I'm not sure exactly what that means at >>> this point. But, my main goal is to enable non-JVM clients. We have C, >>> python and few others now but they always lag with changes and are hard to >>> maintain. >>> >>> -JZ >>> >>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Jörn Franke <jornfra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That looks like great work. In order to address the issues, why not >>> build on top of curator (https://curator.apache.org)? >>>> >>>> I could support in case question rise with SASL, but I am not sure yet >>> if I find the time to actively develop for this unfortunately >>>> >>>>> Am 18.11.2019 um 15:25 schrieb Jordan Zimmerman < >>> jor...@jordanzimmerman.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> I've written a proof of concept implementation of a ServerCnxnFactory >>> that implements gRPC. The goal is to make it possible to easily write >>> ZooKeeper clients in non-JVM languages. Using the proof of concept I was >>> able to write a Golang client easily. What's the interest level of >>> something like this? Let's discuss if it's worth pursuing. I'd be willing >>> to move this from proof of concept to production but I'll need help (1 or 2 >>> co-developers). >>>>> >>>>> If you want to try it, I've pushed the Golang client and some >>> instructions here (let me know if you have any issues - I'm a go neophyte). >>> Note: "zookeeper/test.go" is the interesting file: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/Randgalt/zkgrpc < >>> https://github.com/Randgalt/zkgrpc> >>>>> >>>>> Here's the proof of concept on the ZK server side (the interesting >>> files are RpcServerCnxn.java, RpcServerCnxnFactory.java, >>> RpcZooKeeperServer.java and zookeeper.proto): >>>>> >>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/compare/master...Randgalt:wip-grpc < >>> https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/compare/master...Randgalt:wip-grpc> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Issues: >>>>> Writing a client, even with gRPC, will require some work. Sessions have >>> to be maintained, watchers have to be maintained, etc. >>>>> Currently, Jute is deeply embedded in ZooKeeper. The proof of concept >>> has to emulate Jute byte buffers. Ideally, this will be abstracted so that >>> only records could be used so that the gRPC connection doesn't have to keep >>> marshalling/unmarshalling byte buffers >>>>> I don't know enough about the gRPC client/server implementations to >>> know if it will meet the needs of ZooKeeper. Anyone have experience here? >>>>> I haven't completely thought through how much work it will take to >>> write useful clients. As I've shown with the proof of concept simple ZK >>> CRUD db operations work well. I need to spend time writing a recipe such as >>> Leader Election to see how much work is required. >>>>> I'm not sure how things like SASL and reconfig would work with gRPC >>>>> >>>>> -Jordan >>> >>> >