Hi,

On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 12:36 PM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
wrote:

> Am not gonna answer your questions, just raise some more :)
>

Nice!


> 1- You mention Trino and "no 22 buildchain". Well, Trino is also in RC
> and as you say is Java 22, so how come?
>
> https://github.com/jvm-repo-rebuild/reproducible-central/blob/master/content/io/trino/README.md
> And Trino being Java 22, there have to be 22 toolchains available, no?
>

They use a JDK 22 only image (
docker.io/library/maven:3.9.9-eclipse-temurin-22 ) that I have not yet
been able to extend with the other JDKs I need.
I am looking into this direction if I can fix this!

2- The setup reminds me of some similar builds we have, for example
> Resolver 2.x (master).
> The "baseline" for Resolver 2.x is still Java 8, but there are modules
> that are Java 11 or even 17.
>

Yes, similar to what my project has. Depending on the UDF the JDK toolchain
is different.


> (True, no 22).


The key problem is that 22 has such a limited lifespan that the normal
packages for systems like Ubuntu are not available.


> Hence, to build a Resolver you need "highest Java" and
> it is enforced, that is currently 21
> (I also like to stick to LTS Java versions). This way it is clear cut
> what you need to build, moreover, if
> if a user tries to build it with older Java, a meaningful error will
> tell what the problem is and hopefully
> help users to adapt (user required Java version).
>

Yes, I have that too.
https://github.com/nielsbasjes/yauaa/blob/main/pom.xml#L518-L521


> 3- I still do not understand why "use max of required Java versions"
> to build the project pattern would not
> work for you? So in your case, you'd require Java 22 to build (as you
> do have Java 22 module) but you
> can still keep some "min" bytecode output (maven.compiler.release) for
> most of the modules...
>

The key is that for the various UDFs I need all of the older JDKs too.
If I build it with 22 then the META-INF/MANIFEST.MF will contain
"Build-Jdk-Spec: 22" instead of "Build-Jdk-Spec: 21".
This is different enough to fail reproducibility.

Niels


On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 12:12 PM Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The problem I have is really a balancing act between several things I
> want
> > to have at the same time that are kinda incompatible.
> >
> > This is the actual usecase
> >
> https://github.com/nielsbasjes/yauaa/blob/5501a47189e93f4917afddafbf766d024b907f0a/udfs/pom.xml#L90-L100
> >
> > I have a library that does something useful and I want to be able to run
> > everywhere including systems that still need Java 8.
> > During integration testing of the core library I run the tests under JDK
> 8,
> > 11, 17 and 21 (using toolchains) to ensure it actually works in all of
> > those LTS JVMs.
> > I do not like to rely on the non-LTS Java versions for building my code
> > with: too many updates.
> > Because of some maven plugins I need to run the build under a recent Java
> > version, I have pinned that to the latest LTS: 21.
> >
> > I have several ready-to-run UDFs wrapping this functionality for various
> > engines to run in. Trino (https://trino.io/) is the only one that
> requires
> > Java 22 and this causes problems in my build.
> >
> > I also want my project to be reproducible so it is also here
> >
> https://github.com/jvm-repo-rebuild/reproducible-central/blob/master/content%2Fnl%2Fbasjes%2Fparse%2Fuseragent%2Fyauaa%2FREADME.md
> > The reproducible site (of which I have written part of the code together
> > with Hervé Boutemy <https://github.com/hboutemy>) uses docker to do the
> > build.
> > A toolchains build that also includes JDK 22 is not in there yet (there
> is
> > no apt install for JDK 22 available because it is considered unstable).
> > As a consequence the reproducibility of my project has been off since the
> > Trino switch to JDK 22.
> >
> > So I have the module activated on the JDK 22+ version that maven runs
> > under, but I have to run it under 21 to be reproducible. Hence I need a
> > different way of activating the profile.
> >
> > I have been looking if I can activate a profile if a toolchain version is
> > available but that is not yet a feature.
> > Side question: Being able to activate an optional profile IF a specific
> > toolchain is available; Would that be a desirable feature in maven?
> >
> > Back to my original question: Is the observed behaviour of the
> > maven-release-plugin as intended?
> >
> > Niels Basjes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 19:26 Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > I am just shooting in the dark, but why not:
> > > * activate profile on Java 22+
> > > * release on Java 22?
> > >
> > > (assuming the other module have maven.compiler.release=21 or some
> > > reasonable value)
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > T
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 11:41 AM Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have in my project a maven module that is only activated if a
> specific
> > > > profile is active (by default it is not active).
> > > > Side note: It is an part that requires Java 22, optional during
> > > development
> > > > and I do want to release it with the maven-release-plugin
> > > >
> > > > I have put this profile into both the list of profiles that need to
> be
> > > > active during preparation and release  (see sketch below).
> > > >
> > > > When I do "mvn release:prepare" it does not update the
> module2/pom.xml
> > > with
> > > > the new version.
> > > > I found that I need to explicitly activate it on the commandline as
> well
> > > to
> > > > activate it there too "mvn release:prepare -PActivateModule2"
> > > >
> > > > I expected this profile to be active during the entire prepare phase
> > > (i.e.
> > > > including the "update the version" part).
> > > >
> > > > Is this an omission/bug or is this as intended?
> > > >
> > > > Niels Basjes
> > > >
> > > > <build>
> > > >   <plugins>
> > > >     <plugin>
> > > >       <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
> > > >       <artifactId>maven-release-plugin</artifactId>
> > > >       <version>3.1.1</version>
> > > >       <configuration>
> > > >         <preparationProfiles>ActivateModule2</preparationProfiles>
> > > >         <releaseProfiles>ActivateModule2</releaseProfiles>
> > > >       </configuration>
> > > >     </plugin>
> > > >   </plugins>
> > > > </build>
> > > >
> > > > <modules>
> > > >   <module>module1</module>
> > > > </modules>
> > > >
> > > > <profiles>
> > > >   <profile>
> > > >     <id>ActivateModule2</id>
> > > >     <modules>
> > > >       <module>module2</module>
> > > >     </modules>
> > > >   </profile>
> > > > </profiles>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
> > > >
> > > > Niels Basjes
> > >
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Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,

Niels Basjes

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