In the regular tcp: case, the receive sends an async command to the
broker and then blocks on the internal consumer queue, if that async
send were to fail you would need an exception listener to capture it.
The failover transort traps all exceptions on async/oneway requests so
it will notice by default.

On 3 August 2010 16:08, David Delbecq <david.delb...@oma.be> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> thanks,  its seems to work around our problem, we will keep an eye on it.
> Are there any reason while failover: connection is capable of detecting the
> network problem and reconnecting while the tcp: just "wait"? Shouldn't it at
> least throw an exception when link is down?
>
>
> Le 03/08/10 16:52, Dejan Bosanac a écrit :
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> failover transport can be used for just one broker as well and it is
>> used to solve these kind of problems. So
>>
>> failover:(tcp://localhost:61616)
>>
>> should work just fine. If the broker is down or there are network
>> problems, the transport will try to reestablish the connection.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
>>
>> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
>> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
>> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM, David Delbecq<david.delb...@oma.be>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for reply
>>>
>>> we do not use failover, because there is only one broker. It's not
>>> critical
>>> enough to justify two or more brokers. We just want receive() to fail in
>>> a
>>> way or other when the other ends (broker) dies for some reason, so we can
>>> take appropriate measures. This is just illogical for receive(timeout) to
>>> just return null when the underlying connection does not exist anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 03/08/10 16:08, Dejan Bosanac a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> did you try using failover transport
>>>>
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/failover-transport-reference.html
>>>>
>>>> It should take care of detecting network problems and reconnecting.
>>>> Then you should just use receive() or message listener
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> --
>>>> Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
>>>>
>>>> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
>>>> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
>>>> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM, David Delbecq<david.delb...@oma.be>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> we are having fiability troubles with activeMQ (5.2). To get around
>>>>> those,
>>>>> we use in consumer receive(timeout) with a timeout of 60 seconds to
>>>>> detect
>>>>> early problems with broker.  We assumed if we called receive() on a
>>>>> closed
>>>>> connection (broker side closed) we sould somehow get an exception.
>>>>>  However,
>>>>> when activeMQ server is shutdown for any reason, the receiver never
>>>>> detect
>>>>> this and the receive call never return any message. We suspect the
>>>>> timeout
>>>>> occurs, but we would expect some kind of exception telling us we need
>>>>> to
>>>>> reconnect.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is consumer code:
>>>>> while (!stopNow) {
>>>>>                Message m = receiver.receive(60000);//wait 60 then next
>>>>> loop
>>>>>                if (m == null) {
>>>>>                    continue; // timeout?
>>>>>                }
>>>>>                if (m instanceof MapMessage) { // The event queue should
>>>>> contain only map messages !
>>>>>                    processEventMessage((MapMessage) m);
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the threaddump of consumer. There are messages in that queue
>>>>> waiting
>>>>> since yesterday, but the consumer never received any of those! This is
>>>>> very
>>>>> problematic as, for now, we must restart every consumer after
>>>>> restarting
>>>>> the
>>>>> broker. We would expect the consumer to be able to detect this and
>>>>> reconnect. What's the procedure to follow for this? We could disconnect
>>>>>  /
>>>>> reconnect every minutes to be sure, but that would mean some kind of
>>>>> additional load on the broker.
>>>>>
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 | "ActiveMQ Connection Worker:
>>>>> tcp://localhost/127.0.0.1:61616" daemon prio=10 tid=0x00007f1cc1d7f000
>>>>> nid=0x5d3a waiting on condition [0x0000000041f7b000]
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |    java.lang.Thread.State:
>>>>> WAITING
>>>>> (parking)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> sun.misc.Unsafe.park(Native
>>>>> Method)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     - parking to wait for
>>>>> <0x00007f1cc8412618>    (a
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.AbstractQueuedSynchronizer$ConditionObject)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.LockSupport.park(LockSupport.java:158)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.AbstractQueuedSynchronizer$ConditionObject.await(AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.java:1925)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.LinkedBlockingQueue.take(LinkedBlockingQueue.java:358)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.getTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:947)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:907)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 | "WrapperJarAppMain" prio=10
>>>>> tid=0x00007f1cc22b8000 nid=0x5f4d in Object.wait() [0x0000000040af6000]
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |    java.lang.Thread.State:
>>>>> TIMED_WAITING (on object monitor)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     - waiting on
>>>>> <0x00007f1cc8413280>    (a java.lang.Object)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> org.apache.activemq.MessageDispatchChannel.dequeue(MessageDispatchChannel.java:77)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     -
>>>>> locked<0x00007f1cc8413280>
>>>>> (a java.lang.Object)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> org.apache.activemq.ActiveMQMessageConsumer.dequeue(ActiveMQMessageConsumer.java:412)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> org.apache.activemq.ActiveMQMessageConsumer.receive(ActiveMQMessageConsumer.java:531)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> be.meteo.shark.client.emailer.JmsEmailer.processMessages(JmsEmailer.java:178)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> be.meteo.shark.client.emailer.JmsEmailer.main(JmsEmailer.java:409)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperJarApp.run(WrapperJarApp.java:352)
>>>>> INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/08/03 08:35:35 |     at
>>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> David Delbecq
>>>>> ICT
>>>>> Institut Royal Météorologique
>>>>> Ext:557
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Delbecq
>>> ICT
>>> Institut Royal Météorologique
>>> Ext:557
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> David Delbecq
> ICT
> Institut Royal Météorologique
> Ext:557
>
>
>



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