So there must be some code written in the broker to dynamically create that 
queue then, correct?  And other system type queues?

Regards,

Barry Barnett
WMQ Enterprise Services & Solutions
Wells Fargo
Cell: 704-564-5501


-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Posta [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ActiveMQ.DLQ

Well, it would be the same as a user-queue... ie.. if something tries to send 
to the DLQ, it will be auto-created. So for example, when the broker checks for 
expiring messages upon dispatch, if it finds any it will send them to the 
DLQ... if that queue, "ActiveMQ.DLQ" is not already in the system (it's not on 
a fresh broker install, for example), then it will be auto-created just like a 
user queue is.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:26 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> After reading the wiki, I see the following:
>
> This means that a client can create a new Queue or Topic dynamically 
> either by calling createQueue() or createTopic() on a JMS Session 
> creating an instance of ActiveMQTopic or ActiveMQQueue and possibly 
> registering them in JNDI
>
> This still isn't telling me how ActiveMQ knows when to create the 
> ActiveMQ.DLQ.  Are you saying that the client would have to dynamically 
> create it, or again, is it something at the server side system config that's 
> telling it to create a DLQ if messages cant be delivered, expired, etc?
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry Barnett
> WMQ Enterprise Services & Solutions
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Posta [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: ActiveMQ.DLQ
>
> Nope :)
>
> http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-create-new-destinations.html
>
> But it's completely configurable.. ie, you can specify whether destinations 
> should be auto-created.. or you can use security to lockdown people from 
> creating destinations on demand... lots of ways to do it, but by default the 
> destinations are auto-created as described in the wiki above.
>
> If you want to have destinations created when the broker starts up, you could 
> do something like this in the activemq.xml file:
>
>  <broker xmlns="http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core";>
>
>     <destinations>
>
>       <queue physicalName="FOO.BAR" />
>
>       <topic physicalName="SOME.TOPIC" />
>
>     </destinations>
>
>   </broker>
>
>
> but it's not necessary....
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:58 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thank you.  But doesn't it have to be in some configuration file somewhere 
>> so that the broker knows how to create it when it's needed?  I don't see it 
>> in the activemq.xml file.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Barry Barnett
>> WMQ Enterprise Services & Solutions
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christian Posta [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:00 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: ActiveMQ.DLQ
>>
>> Barry,
>>
>> ActiveMQ by default auto-creates destinations as it needs/requires them. You 
>> don't have to define the DLQ explicitly. If a message goes to the 
>> ActiveMQ.DLQ, or if a consumer listens to the ActiveMQ.DLQ queue, then the 
>> broker will create it.
>>
>> You can set up queues ahead of time if you'd like, but it's not necessary.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> It is my understanding that expired messages are stored on the ActiveMQ.DLQ 
>>> queue.  When I start the ActiveMQ broker, I do not see the DLQ defined.  If 
>>> this is where the expired messages go to, wouldn't it be a default queue 
>>> for the default configuration?  If not, then do I need to define it using 
>>> that exact name?  What other attributes would I define the queue with?
>>>
>>> I don't see this queue in my activemq.xml file or any config file out of 
>>> the box...
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Barry Barnett
>>> WMQ Enterprise Services & Solutions
>>> W
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christian Posta
>> http://www.christianposta.com/blog
>> twitter: @christianposta
>
>
>
> --
> Christian Posta
> http://www.christianposta.com/blog
> twitter: @christianposta



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