But what I'm saying is should it be that the discovery should happen but then 
the real connection is made from the returned topology. Like for UDP instead of 
hoodwinking on the discovery connection.

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> On 3 Aug 2017, at 12:52, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It is not a bug. People use this to feed an initial list than the topology
> could be much bigger.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:18 AM Michael André Pearce <
> michael.andre.pea...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> To me this sounds like a bug, where you get two connections because you
>> use two lists.
>> 
>> as in why doesn't it use the topology list straight away? Fair enough for
>> discovery of that topology is should temporarily make a connection using
>> the static connections, but it should disconnect and reconnect using the
>> topology. I.e. It should just discover the topology using the static
>> discovery list.
>> 
>> Similar to udp discovery it simply discovers then it uses the topology
>> returned.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 3 Aug 2017, at 04:59, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree we could add an option. We could use the URI parameters Thought
>> as
>>> a beanUtils?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:36 PM Justin Bertram <jbert...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree there should be an option to stick with the "initial" connectors
>>>> rather than being forced to use the topology.  This would be an option
>> on
>>>> the Netty connector.  I think "useTopology" (defaults to true) would be
>> a
>>>> good name.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Justin
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:28 AM, cjaniake <christian.jani...@movile.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there, I have been using the ActiveMQ Artemis JMS interface without
>>>>> JNDI.
>>>>> We are not using server discovery, we use static connectors instead.
>>>>> In the connection factory configuration we supply a list of hosts, that
>>>> are
>>>>> located on two different datacenters, acting as two different clusters.
>>>>> Using the RoundRobinConnectionLoadBalancingPolicy we expected to
>> connect
>>>>> to
>>>>> every server on the list, but that was not what happened.
>>>>> Debugging the code we realized that, after connecting to the first
>>>> (random)
>>>>> host on the list, the Server Locator do not use the initial connectors
>>>> list
>>>>> anymore, it uses the received topology for the next connections.
>>>>> We understand this might be useful in simpler scenarios, but this is
>> not
>>>>> working for us.
>>>>> On a sandbox environment we have even tried to remove the cluster
>>>>> connection
>>>>> configuration, for the servers to act on a stadalone manner, but even
>>>>> though
>>>>> the server locator acts the same way, receiving a "topology" of only
>> one
>>>>> node and restrict the next connections this one host.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a number of problems and inneficiencies we see on this
>> approach.
>>>>> If we have a cluster with 3 hosts for example, and we declare those on
>>>> the
>>>>> host list and get 3 connections using the round robin policy, we would
>>>>> expect to get one connection for each host. But that's not what
>> happens.
>>>>> The
>>>>> load balancing policy starts iterating over one list (the initial
>>>> connector
>>>>> list) and after the first successfull connection it continues iterating
>>>>> over
>>>>> another list (the received topology), so most of the time you would get
>>>> two
>>>>> connections to the same host and none for one of them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a scenario like we have here, with two clusters in different
>>>> locations,
>>>>> it is even worse.
>>>>> We would like to know if we there is an option other than creating a
>>>>> connection factory for each host we want to use, and if we can propose
>> an
>>>>> improvement.
>>>>> We are willing to contribute with the development, if we have an
>>>>> understanding on a possible solution for that problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/
>>>>> ActiveMQConnectionFactory-use-initial-connectors-instead-of-
>>>>> received-topology-tp4729166.html
>>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> --
>>> Clebert Suconic
>> 
> -- 
> Clebert Suconic

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