I think that someone is you. This mailing list tends to have people who show up, ask a question, and then never come back, so I suspect there aren't a lot of (i.e. any) people hanging around who use journaled MSSQL. So I think your best path forward is to get it working based on the suggestions that have been made in this thread.
If you try it and confirm that it works, I'm willing to update the documentation to reflect what you find, as Thiago suggested. But I'd need confirmation that it actually works, and I might need some clarifications from you about what changes are needed to make the current page accurate. Tim On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 7:31 AM, Илья Шипицин <chipits...@gmail.com> wrote: > If official documentation is wrong, I would like to get working example > from someone who actually uses ms SQL jdbc > > On Feb 16, 2018 7:17 PM, "Thiago Veronezi" <thi...@veronezi.org> wrote: > > > The official documentation might be out of date. This would be a nice > > opportunity for us to add some contribution. :) > > > > Anyway, I thought 'org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource" was > something > > installed out of the box. It seems to be missing. > > > > https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/commons-dbcp/commons-dbcp/1.4 > > http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-dbcp/api-1.4/index.html -> you > > will see our missing class here. > > > > Try adding it to the <activemq home>/lib directory. > > > > []s, > > Thiago. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Илья Шипицин <chipits...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > well, I would definetly prefer to use official documentation. > > > why do I ever need to jump over sites and pick random things ? > > > > > > 2018-02-16 18:59 GMT+05:00 Tim Bain <tb...@alumni.duke.edu>: > > > > > > > Try the configuration in the answer to this question: > > > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8604229/setting-up- > > > > activemq-with-journaled-mysql-jdbc-persistence?rq=1 > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2018 6:58 AM, "Илья Шипицин" <chipits...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 16:57:21,051 | INFO | Refreshing > > > > > org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory$1@6fd02e5: startup > date > > > > [Fri > > > > > Feb 16 16:57:21 MSK 2018]; root of context hierarc > > > > > hy | org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory$1 | main > > > > > 2018-02-16 16:57:22,099 | WARN | Exception encountered during > > context > > > > > initialization - cancelling refresh attempt: > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationExcepti > > > > > on: Error creating bean with name > > > > > 'org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerService#0' defined in class > > path > > > > > resource [activemq.xml]: Cannot create inner bean '(inner bean)# > > > > > 156b88f5' of type [org.apache.activemq.store. > > > > jdbc.JDBCPersistenceAdapter] > > > > > while setting bean property 'persistenceAdapter'; nested exception > is > > > > > org.springframework.beans > > > > > .factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean with name > > '(inner > > > > > bean)#156b88f5' defined in class path resource [activemq.xml]: > Cannot > > > > > resolve reference to bean 'ms > > > > > sql-ds' while setting bean property 'dataSource'; nested exception > is > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.CannotLoadBeanClassException: > > Cannot > > > > > find > > > > > class [org.apache.commo > > > > > ns.dbcp.BasicDataSource] for bean with name 'mssql-ds' defined in > > class > > > > > path resource [activemq.xml]; nested exception is > > > > > java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.co > > > > > mmons.dbcp.BasicDataSource | org.apache.activemq.xbean. > > > > > XBeanBrokerFactory$1 > > > > > | main > > > > > 2018-02-16 16:57:22,109 | ERROR | Failed to load: class path > resource > > > > > [activemq.xml], reason: Error creating bean with name > > > > > 'org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerService > > > > > #0' defined in class path resource [activemq.xml]: Cannot create > > inner > > > > bean > > > > > '(inner bean)#156b88f5' of type > > > > > [org.apache.activemq.store.jdbc.JDBCPersistenceAdapter] while > > > > > setting bean property 'persistenceAdapter'; nested exception is > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error > > > creating > > > > > bean with name '(inner bean)#156 > > > > > b88f5' defined in class path resource [activemq.xml]: Cannot > resolve > > > > > reference to bean 'mssql-ds' while setting bean property > > 'dataSource'; > > > > > nested exception is org.sprin > > > > > gframework.beans.factory.CannotLoadBeanClassException: Cannot find > > > class > > > > > [org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSource] for bean with name > > > 'mssql-ds' > > > > > defined in class path re > > > > > source [activemq.xml]; nested exception is > > > > > java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.commons.dbcp. > > > > BasicDataSource > > > > > | > > > > > org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory | mai > > > > > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 18:53 GMT+05:00 Thiago Veronezi <thi...@veronezi.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I meant for you to test the config above, but replacing > > > > "postgres-ds" > > > > > > with your "mssql-ds". > > > > > > We will just test the connection without the journaling thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > []s, > > > > > > Thiago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Илья Шипицин < > > chipits...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry, I do not have postgresql here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can set up a vm for you with ms sql if you wish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 18:44 GMT+05:00 Thiago Veronezi < > thi...@veronezi.org > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have a mssql server handy for testing it. Can you try > > > > > > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have postgres configured with this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <persistenceAdapter> > > > > > > > > <jdbcPersistenceAdapter dataSource="#postgres-ds"> > > > > > > > > </jdbcPersistenceAdapter> > > > > > > > > </persistenceAdapter> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you try the same? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > []s, > > > > > > > > Thiago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Илья Шипицин < > > > > chipits...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > log: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 16:27:55,841 | INFO | Refreshing > > > > > > > > > org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory$1@6fd02e5: > > > startup > > > > > date > > > > > > > > [Fri > > > > > > > > > Feb 16 16:27:55 MSK 2018]; root of context hierarchy | > > > > > > > > > org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory$1 | main > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 16:27:56,249 | ERROR | Failed to load: class > path > > > > > resource > > > > > > > > > [activemq.xml], reason: Line 38 in XML document from class > > path > > > > > > > resource > > > > > > > > > [activemq.xml] is invalid; nested exception is > > > > > > > > > org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; lineNumber: 3 > > > > > > > > > 8; columnNumber: 102; cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid > content > > > was > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > starting with element 'journaledJDBC'. One of '{" > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > jdbcPersistenceAdapter, > > > > " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":journalP > > > > > > > > > ersistenceAdapter, "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core > > > > > ":kahaDB, > > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":levelDB, " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":mKahaDB, " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > memoryPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > > > > > "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > replicatedLevelDB, > > > > > > > > WC[##other:" > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core"]}' is expected. | > > > > > > > > > org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory | main > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > > > > XmlBeanDefinitionStoreExceptio > > > > > > n: > > > > > > > > > Line > > > > > > > > > 38 in XML document from class path resource [activemq.xml] > is > > > > > > invalid; > > > > > > > > > nested exception is org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; > > lineNumber: > > > > 38; > > > > > > > > > columnNumber: 102; c > > > > > > > > > vc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content was found starting > > with > > > > > > element > > > > > > > > > 'journaledJDBC'. One of > > > > > > > > > '{"http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > jdbcPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > > > > > "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > > journalPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > > > "htt > > > > > > > > > p://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":kahaDB, " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":levelDB, " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":mKahaDB, " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > memoryPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apach > > > > > > > > > e.org/schema/core":replicatedLevelDB, WC[##other:" > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core"]}' is expected. > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > XmlBeanDefinitionReader. > > > > > > > > > doLoadBeanDefinitions(XmlBeanDefinitionReader.java: > > > > > > > > > 399)[spring-beans-4.3.9.RELEASE.jar:4.3.9.RELEASE] > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > XmlBeanDefinitionReader. > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(XmlBeanDefinitionReader.java: > > > > > > > > 336)[spring-beans-4.3.9. > > > > > > > > > RELEASE.jar:4.3.9.RELEASE] > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > XmlBeanDefinitionReader. > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(XmlBeanDefinitionReader.java: > > > > > > > > 304)[spring-beans-4.3.9. > > > > > > > > > RELEASE.jar:4.3.9.RELEASE] > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.apache.xbean.spring.context. > > ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > java:111)[xbean-spring-4.2.jar:4.2] > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > org.apache.xbean.spring.context. > > ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > java:104)[xbean-spring-4.2.jar:4.2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > config: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <beans > > > > > > > > > xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans"; > > > > > > > > > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; > > > > > > > > > xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.springframework.org/ > > > > schema/beans > > > > > > > > > http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans/spring-beans. > xsd > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core/activemq-core.xsd";> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bean > > > > > > > > > class="org.springframework.beans.factory.config. > > > > > > > > > PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer"> > > > > > > > > > <property name="locations"> > > > > > > > > > <value>file:${activemq.conf}/ > > > > > > > credentials.properties</value> > > > > > > > > > </property> > > > > > > > > > </bean> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bean id="logQuery" class="io.fabric8.insight.log. > > > > > > > > log4j.Log4jLogQuery" > > > > > > > > > lazy-init="false" scope="singleton" > > > > > > > > > init-method="start" destroy-method="stop"> > > > > > > > > > </bean> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <broker xmlns="http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core"; > > > > > > > > > brokerName="localhost" dataDirectory="${activemq.data}"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <destinationPolicy> > > > > > > > > > <policyMap> > > > > > > > > > <policyEntries> > > > > > > > > > <policyEntry topic=">" > > > > > > > > > > <pendingMessageLimitStrategy> > > > > > > > > > <constantPendingMessageLimitStrategy > > > > > > > limit="1000"/> > > > > > > > > > </pendingMessageLimitStrategy> > > > > > > > > > </policyEntry> > > > > > > > > > </policyEntries> > > > > > > > > > </policyMap> > > > > > > > > > </destinationPolicy> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <managementContext> > > > > > > > > > <managementContext createConnector="false"/> > > > > > > > > > </managementContext> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <persistenceAdapter> > > > > > > > > > <journaledJDBC journalLogFiles="5" > > > > > > > > > dataDirectory="../activemq-data" dataSource="#mssql-ds"> > > > > > > > > > <adapter><imageBasedJDBCAdaptor/></adapter> > > > > > > > > > </journaledJDBC> > > > > > > > > > </persistenceAdapter> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <systemUsage> > > > > > > > > > <systemUsage> > > > > > > > > > <memoryUsage> > > > > > > > > > <memoryUsage percentOfJvmHeap="70" /> > > > > > > > > > </memoryUsage> > > > > > > > > > <storeUsage> > > > > > > > > > <storeUsage limit="100 gb"/> > > > > > > > > > </storeUsage> > > > > > > > > > <tempUsage> > > > > > > > > > <tempUsage limit="50 gb"/> > > > > > > > > > </tempUsage> > > > > > > > > > </systemUsage> > > > > > > > > > </systemUsage> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <transportConnectors> > > > > > > > > > <!-- DOS protection, limit concurrent > connections > > > to > > > > > 1000 > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > frame size to 100MB --> > > > > > > > > > <transportConnector name="openwire" uri="tcp:// > > > > > > > > > 0.0.0.0:61616?maximumConnections=1000& > > > > wireFormat.maxFrameSize= > > > > > > > > > 104857600 > > > > > > > > > "/> > > > > > > > > > <transportConnector name="amqp" uri="amqp:// > > > > > > > > > 0.0.0.0:5672?maximumConnections=1000& > > > > wireFormat.maxFrameSize= > > > > > > > > 104857600 > > > > > > > > > "/> > > > > > > > > > <transportConnector name="stomp" uri="stomp:// > > > > > > > > > 0.0.0.0:61613?maximumConnections=1000& > > > > wireFormat.maxFrameSize= > > > > > > > > > 104857600 > > > > > > > > > "/> > > > > > > > > > <transportConnector name="mqtt" uri="mqtt:// > > > > > > > > > 0.0.0.0:1883?maximumConnections=1000& > > > > wireFormat.maxFrameSize= > > > > > > > > 104857600 > > > > > > > > > "/> > > > > > > > > > <transportConnector name="ws" uri="ws:// > > > > > > > > > 0.0.0.0:61614?maximumConnections=1000& > > > > wireFormat.maxFrameSize= > > > > > > > > > 104857600 > > > > > > > > > "/> > > > > > > > > > </transportConnectors> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <shutdownHooks> > > > > > > > > > <bean xmlns="http://www. > > > springframework.org/schema/ > > > > > beans > > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > class="org.apache.activemq.hooks.SpringContextHook" /> > > > > > > > > > </shutdownHooks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > </broker> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bean id="mssql-ds" class="org.apache.commons. > > > > > > > dbcp.BasicDataSource" > > > > > > > > > destroy-method="close"> > > > > > > > > > <property name="driverClassName" > > > > > > > > > value="com.microsoft.sqlserver.jdbc.SQLServerDriver"/> > > > > > > > > > <property name="url" > > > > > > > > > value="jdbc:sqlserver://HOST:PORT;databaseName=DBNAME"/> > > > > > > > > > <property name="username" value="USER"/> > > > > > > > > > <property name="password" value="PASSWORD"/> > > > > > > > > > </bean> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <import resource="jetty.xml"/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > </beans> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 17:53 GMT+05:00 Thiago Veronezi < > > > thi...@veronezi.org > > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you share your configuration file? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > []s, > > > > > > > > > > Thiago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Илья Шипицин < > > > > > > chipits...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to set up apache-activemq-5.15.3 + ms sql > > using > > > > the > > > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > > > guide: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/sqlserver.html (2005 part) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I downloaded jdbc driver + changed config as in > example, > > > > > however, > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > getting the following error: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 12:39:45,340 | INFO | Refreshing > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory$1@6fd02e5 > : > > > > > startup > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > [Fri > > > > > > > > > > > Feb 16 12:39:45 MSK 2018]; root of context hierarc > > > > > > > > > > > hy | org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory$1 | > > main > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-02-16 12:39:46,335 | ERROR | Failed to load: class > > > path > > > > > > > resource > > > > > > > > > > > [activemq.xml], reason: Line 83 in XML document from > > class > > > > path > > > > > > > > > resource > > > > > > > > > > > [activemq.xml] is invalid; > > > > > > > > > > > nested exception is org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; > > > > lineNumber: > > > > > > 83; > > > > > > > > > > > columnNumber: 94; cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid > content > > > was > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > > > starting with element 'journaledJ > > > > > > > > > > > DBC'. One of '{"http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core > ": > > > > > > > > > > > jdbcPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > > > > > > > "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > > > > journalPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apac > > > > > > > > > > > he.org/schema/core":kahaDB, " > http://activemq.apache.org/ > > > > > > > schema/core > > > > > > > > > > > ":levelDB, > > > > > > > > > > > "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":mKahaDB, " > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > > > > > > > > memoryPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > > > > > > > "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > replicatedLevelDB, > > > > > > > > > > > WC[##other:"http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core"]}' > > is > > > > > > > expected. > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.ac > > > > > > > > > > > tivemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory | main > > > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > > > > > > XmlBeanDefinitionStoreExceptio > > > > > > > > n: > > > > > > > > > > > Line > > > > > > > > > > > 83 in XML document from class path resource > > [activemq.xml] > > > is > > > > > > > > invalid; > > > > > > > > > > > nested exception is or > > > > > > > > > > > g.xml.sax.SAXParseException; lineNumber: 83; > > columnNumber: > > > > 94; > > > > > > > > > > > cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content was found > > starting > > > > with > > > > > > > > element > > > > > > > > > > > 'journaledJDBC'. One of '{"http:// > > > > > > > > > > > activemq.apache.org/schema/core > ":jdbcPersistenceAdapter, > > " > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > > > journalPersistenceAdapter, > > > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":kah > > > > > > > > > > > aDB, "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":levelDB, > " > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core":mKahaDB, " > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > > memoryPersistenceAdapte > > > > > > > > > > > r, "http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core": > > > > replicatedLevelDB, > > > > > > > > > > > WC[##other:" > > > > > > > > > > > http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core"]}' is > expected. > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > > > XmlBeanDefinitionReader. > > > > > > > > > > > doLoadBeanDefinitions(XmlBeanDefinitionReader.java: > > > > > > > > > > > 399)[spring-beans-4.3.9.RELEASE.jar:4.3.9.REL > > > > > > > > > > > EASE] > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > > > XmlBeanDefinitionReader. > > > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(XmlBeanDefinitionReader.java: > > > > > > > > > > 336)[spring-beans-4.3.9. > > > > > > > > > > > RELEASE.jar:4.3.9.RELEA > > > > > > > > > > > SE] > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.beans.factory.xml. > > > > XmlBeanDefinitionReader. > > > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(XmlBeanDefinitionReader.java: > > > > > > > > > > 304)[spring-beans-4.3.9. > > > > > > > > > > > RELEASE.jar:4.3.9.RELEA > > > > > > > > > > > SE] > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.xbean.spring.context. > > > > ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > > > java:111)[xbean-spring-4.2.jar:4.2] > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.xbean.spring.context. > > > > ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > > > loadBeanDefinitions(ResourceXmlApplicationContext. > > > > > > > > > > > java:104)[xbean-spring-4.2.jar:4.2] > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > org.springframework.context.support. > > > > > > AbstractRefreshableApplication > > > > > > > > > > > Context.refreshBeanFactory( > > AbstractRefreshableApplication > > > > > > > > > > > Context.java:129)[spring-context-4. > > > > > > > > > > > 3.9.RELEASE.jar:4.3.9.RELEASE] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any working example how to setup ms sql jdbc ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > Ilya Shipitsin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
