For 3: I added a class named SimpleMangement to the code base that can help
with management Over messaging

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 1:00 PM Domenico Francesco Bruscino <
bruscin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> Question 1
> I'm not able to see the attached image, could you write the text?
>
> Question 2
> Justin already answered, The default management.xml does indeed have the
> connector commented out which means there is no remote JMX connectivity....
>
> Question 3
> Clebert already answered, You can also use the management API over
> messaging...
> Another way is to use the jolokia endpoint, i.e. curl -H "Origin:
> http://localhost:8161"; -u admin:admin
>
> http://localhost:8161/console/jolokia/read/org.apache.activemq.artemis:broker=\
> "broker\"/Version
>
> Regards,
> Domenico
>
> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 15:49, Sargrad, Dave <dave.sarg...@saabinc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi.  Thanks for your fast turn-around on issue 4409.
> >
> > [ARTEMIS-4409] Update examples to use management.xml - ASF JIRA
> > (apache.org) <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4409>
> >
> >
> >
> > I have 3 questions.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Question 1*
> >
> >
> >
> > I see that in the updated documentation the Artemis broker is specified
> as
> > follows:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have an Artemis broker running on my private network. I am trying to
> > figure out how to specify the hostname and port for the JMX interface.
> >
> >
> >
> > In line 59 above, I only see the hostname specified.  How do I specify
> the
> > JMX port to connect to?
> >
> >
> >
> > *Question 2*
> >
> >
> >
> > Also what is the default JMX port?
> >
> >
> >
> > *Question 3*
> >
> >
> >
> > Lastly is JMX the one and only way (the proper way) to control Artemis
> > programmatically? Or are there other options that I should understand
> > before building an application that controls the Artemis state?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please advise.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:50 PM
> > To: users@activemq.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: FW: {EXTERNAL MAIL} WELCOME to users@activemq.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> > The "client-kickoff" example is using Java system properties to configure
> > remote JMX connectivity. However, that configuration method was replaced
> > awhile back with management.xml which you can see being used in the "jmx"
> >
> > example. I've opened ARTEMIS-4409 [1] and sent a PR to fix this. In the
> > meantime, please refer to the "jmx" example as well as the documentation
> > [2] for details on how remote JMX connectivity should be configured.
> >
> >
> >
> > The management API is fundamentally based on JMX, but it is exposed in
> > several different ways as noted in the documentation [3]:
> >
> >
> >
> > - HTTP via Jolokia. See the documentation [4] for more details.
> >
> > - Management messages. See the documentation [5] and the "management"
> >
> > example for more details.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4409
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/management.html#remote-jmx-access
> >
> > [3]
> >
> >
> >
> https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/management.html
> >
> > [4]
> >
> >
> >
> https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/management.html#exposing-jmx-using-jolokia
> >
> > [5]
> >
> >
> >
> https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/management.html#using-management-message-api
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 10:07 AM Sargrad, Dave <dave.sarg...@saabinc.com
> >
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi.
> >
> > > I've got an artemis broker running. I am able to browse to the admin
> >
> > > portal at 8161. I also am able to publish and subscribe to 61616.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I want to control the broker programmatically.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I've searched for sample code to do this.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > All I've found seems to be this JMX enabled sample.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/tree/main/examples/features
> >
> > > /standard/client-kickoff
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Can someone point me to a sample that does not use JMX? Is JMX the
> >
> > > only way to control an artemis broker programmatically?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Assuming that the Broker always uses JMX for this type of programmatic
> >
> > > control, do I need to configure this by adding the following
> >
> > > attributes to the brokers JVM state?
> >
> > > -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
> >
> > > -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.port=3000
> >
> > > -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.ssl=false
> >
> > > -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.authenticate=false
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks in advance for your guidance.
> >
> > >
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