Hi Justin, sorry, my bad. I had no idea that Artemis-related mailing list exists. I'm not up to date. :-) The docs thing is complicated. The security page was the first I came across, and since it was consulting the management API security, I didn't feel any urge to look anywhere else. In general, what I find confusing is the docs layout in general, because once I dig deeper, I lose track of where I am and where I can go further. What happened: 1. I opened the docs. 2. I clicked Security (because that felt like the right thing to do). 3. I clicked Authentication & Authorization. 4. This took me away from the main page with the title still saying User Manual for 2.51.0. 5. Under the pressure from trying to solve an issue, I didn't realize I was deep in the docs, and that I could go back up the structure using the "back" browser button and try a different section. We've had this discussion already. Back then it was about the disappearance of the search functionality (which would be my go-to approach if it was still there). You've explained to me the reasoning behind the new structure. At this point, I couldn't argue any further unless I was able to improve it myself. Which I wasn't.
Jan Šmucr DevOps Engineer Mobile +420 737 186 293 aimtecglobal.com -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Justin Bertram <[email protected]> Odesláno: úterý 17. února 2026 15:35 Komu: [email protected] Předmět: Re: Adding a JMX read-only user > ...the linking in the static docs version is confusing. Can you elaborate on this. I'd like to make the docs as clear as possible. Also, in the future please send questions like this to the Artemis users list (i.e. [email protected]) [1]. Lastly, I have definitely seen PNG images come through the mailing list so at least in some cases it works. Justin [1] https://artemis.apache.org/contact On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 3:27 AM Jan Šmucr <[email protected]> wrote: > > OK, now I see that the JMX management docs are separate from the security > docs. Sorry, the linking in the static docs version is confusing. I'll dig > deeper. > > Jan Šmucr > DevOps Engineer > > Mobile +420 737 186 293 > aimtecglobal.com > > > > -----Původní zpráva----- > Od: Jan Šmucr <[email protected]> > Odesláno: úterý 17. února 2026 10:10 > Komu: [email protected] > Kopie: Vilius Šumskas <[email protected]> > Předmět: RE: Adding a JMX read-only user > > Dear Vilius, > > LLMs tend to be way better in understanding text and code. If they don't > understand it, then chances are the text may be unclear to a mere human > without an additional context. Which happens to be me. I did not understand > it, nor did the LLM. Hence I ask here. > > This mailing list cannot handle screenshots, so to clarify: After opening > jconsole, I can log in and see the MBeans tree. I then expand > "org.apache.activemq.artemis" and "<server name>", and click the "Attributes" > item. A table appears on the right side of the window, revealing all > server-related attributes with their values stating "Unavailable", written in > red. > > Steps that I had performed were listed in the previous e-mail. Given that I > can log into the jconsole, the account has been set up properly to allow me > for at least that. > Since the documentation completely omits the basics, one of my attempts had > to be intuitive, and that is to have the new "view" share its capabilities > with the default "amq": > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?> <management-context > xmlns="http://activemq.apache.org/schema";> > <connector connector-port="1099"/> > <authorisation> > <allowlist> > <entry domain="hawtio"/> > </allowlist> > <default-access> > <access method="list*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="get*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="is*" roles="amq,view"/> > </default-access> > <role-access> > <match domain="org.apache.activemq.artemis"> > <access method="list*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="get*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="is*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="set*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="browse*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="count*" roles="amq,view"/> > <access method="*" roles="amq,view"/> > </match> > </role-access> > </authorisation> > </management-context> > > But not even this simple adjustment made any difference. > > Jan Šmucr > DevOps Engineer > > Mobile +420 737 186 293 > aimtecglobal.com > > > > -----Původní zpráva----- > Od: Vilius Šumskas via users <[email protected]> > Odesláno: úterý 17. února 2026 9:08 > Komu: [email protected] > Kopie: Vilius Šumskas <[email protected]> > Předmět: RE: Adding a JMX read-only user > > And that‘s why you don‘t use generative AI tools to solve a deterministic > problem. > > What specifically you didn’t understand on > https://arte/ > mis.apache.org%2Fcomponents%2Fartemis%2Fdocumentation%2Flatest%2Fsecur > ity.html&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com%7Cf8b692f681e5449 > 09cbc08de6e320f59%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C6390693 > 58464608226%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLj > AuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7 > C&sdata=5Ml9oIFd4ceHHmK3Aaj9k3IVKkXSkicG8805wCFMA3I%3D&reserved=0 ? > Have you read the linking > https://arte/ > mis.apache.org%2Fcomponents%2Fartemis%2Fdocumentation%2Flatest%2Fmanag > ement.html%23configuring-jmx&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.c > om%7Cf8b692f681e544909cbc08de6e320f59%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ff > c5%7C1%7C0%7C639069358464625085%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcG > kiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoy > fQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=YjjsZB9Xl%2FrleCZ04YS6HTzojsvNmhK3KjvWQorp > FK0%3D&reserved=0 ? If you want help on the mailing list, you need to > be more specific what steps you tried and what was the end result > (errors, screenshots, etc.) > > -- > Vilius > > From: Jan Šmucr <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2026 9:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Adding a JMX read-only user > > Hello. I’d like to ask you for help with adding a user capable of monitoring > basic attributes exposed by an Artemis instance. I couldn’t understand the > documentation here: > https://artemis.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/security.html > I even had ChatGPT read it for me, and compose a step-by-step guide, but > with no luck either. > > 1. I started with creating a new instance: > apache-artemis-2.51.0/bin/artemis create '--name=test' '--host=0.0.0.0' > '--http-host=0.0.0.0' '--relax-jolokia' '--require-login' '--user=admin' > '--password=test' 'test' > 2. I added a new “view = zabbix” role to etc/artemis-roles.properties > 3. I added a new user “zabbix = ENC(…)” to etc/artemis-users.properties > 4. Now I was able to log in using the jconsole, but I didn’t see any > attribute values > 5. 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