sissy...

just kidding :)

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Brice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:42:33 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: [appfuse-user] Re: [appfuse-dev] Moving from Canoo WebTest to 
Selenium

I really really like TestNG. 

Call me a sissy, but the color-coded GUI is infinitely preferable to squinting 
at a command line. 

Also being able to assign methods of the test classes to groups is really nice 
when you're working with one "silo" of functionality and need to run multiple 
methods across multiple tests but don't want to run everything. 

The depends-on parameter is sweet too, if something basic like your dao is null 
you don't spend a minute and half watching all the downstream methods throw 
exceptions. 

Perhaps some of this is just candy, but if it makes testing less painful and 
consequently you write better, more thorough tests, more often, it's a plus. 

My 2 cents. 

Jason 



On 5/31/07 , Matt Raible < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

I guess the hard part if figuring out how to do it. With Canoo 
WebTest, it was easy enough to use svn:externals to pull in the 
web-tests.xml (as well as login.xml and config.xml) from the 
src/test/resources directory of each web module. 

If we want to allow the same setup for Selenium, we'd likely put the 
files in src/test/java/org/appfuse/webapp/selenium (or something 
similar). We could use svn:externals to pull these into the 
archetypes, but we'd have to retain the package names. For the basic 
archetypes, Maven will rename the package names, but not for the 
modular archetypes, so it seems to make better sense to hard-code 
these. 

Of course, if Maven can run tests in a JAR file, that might be a good 
solution (but it doesn't do much for IDE integration). 

On a related note, does anyone have any thoughts about an 
appfuse-junit dependency that includes all the Base*TestCase classes 
and dependencies? We'll probably eventually need to do this if we want 
to support TestNG and allow users to use JUnit. Then again, it's 
probably best to switch whole-heartedly and not support multiple 
testing frameworks. 

Matt 

On 5/31/07 , Sanjiv Jivan < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> I favor only supporting Selenium. I see no reason to support a testing 
> framework like Canoo which is no longer a web testing best practice. 
> 
> Sanjiv 
> 
> 
> On 5/31/07 , Matt Raible < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> > 
> > All, 
> > 
> > After getting Dojo's DropdownDatePicker working with both Struts and 
> > Spring MVC, I've run into a snag: 
> > 
> > You can no longer use Canoo WebTest to enter dates in a form. 
> > 
> > It doesn't find the form element because HtmlUnit (the underlying 
> > browser implementation for Canoo) doesn't understand/render Dojo's 
> > components. 
> > 
> > For users, workarounds include: 
> > 
> > 1. Don't write tests for entering data on forms that have required dates. 
> > 2. Don't make dates required. 
> > 
> > Either way, it seems logical to move to Selenium for UI testing. 
> > 
> > Thoughts? 
> > 
> > I plan to use Selenium's Java support to write the tests, so test data 
> > will be part of JUnit reports, which is a nice side effect. Also, if 
> > you start Cargo + Selenium RC up in the background, you'll be able to 
> > run tests from your IDE. 
> > 
> > Is there anyone out there that'd like the option of WebTest or 
> > Selenium? It's probably possible to support both, but I'd rather not. 
> > Selenium is simply a better solution for the problem AFAICT. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any comments. 
> > 
> > Matt 
> > 
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