For the sake of clarification, we've tried to troubleshoot this issue some in the Slack channel #artemis.
I tried the mount options for NFS you gave @Justin Bertram, but no success so far. I'll come back with more information On Thu, 2026-03-26 at 21:34 -0400, Clebert Suconic wrote: > Are you sure the move succeeded? Can you try the latest version? > > How did you move? > > > You can check the data print of your messages.. > > when you add messages, and do the following command, you will see > what's left in the journals... > > > ./artemis data print --output data.log > > > The journal is a binary logger, it adds / deletes.. and you will see > what survived the operations: > > > For a send I performed with ./artemis producer --message-count=10 > --commit-interval=1 you will have an output like this (on the end of > this post) on Surviving records (from ./artemis data print) > > you will have one send and one AddRef > > > > For when you AckMessages, you will have AckRecords. > > > > it could be that you're holding a transaction and when you restarted > the broker the transaction was rolled back. > > Or you hit some bugs we fixed in management. > > > Follows the output from data print, that you can use to debug this. > > > > > > ### Surviving Records Summary ### > recordID=28;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=28;userMessageID=dbc67b07-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=28, > durable=true, userID=dbc67b07-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=0, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@1078834804 > recordID=28;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=29;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=29;userMessageID=dbc6a218-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=29, > durable=true, userID=dbc6a218-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=1, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@1357944757 > recordID=29;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=31;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=31;userMessageID=dbc96139-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=31, > durable=true, userID=dbc96139-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=2, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@2061337484 > recordID=31;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=33;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=33;userMessageID=dbcb841a-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=33, > durable=true, userID=dbcb841a-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=3, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@912440831 > recordID=33;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=35;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=35;userMessageID=dbcd58db-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=35, > durable=true, userID=dbcd58db-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=4, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@464606033 > recordID=35;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=37;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=37;userMessageID=dbcf7bbc-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=37, > durable=true, userID=dbcf7bbc-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=5, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@1336418989 > recordID=37;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=39;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=39;userMessageID=dbd1778d-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=39, > durable=true, userID=dbd1778d-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=6, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@1501497655 > recordID=39;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=41;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=41;userMessageID=dbd3735e-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=41, > durable=true, userID=dbd3735e-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=7, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@2060569250 > recordID=41;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=43;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=43;userMessageID=dbd56f2f-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=43, > durable=true, userID=dbd56f2f-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=8, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@1802188146 > recordID=43;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > recordID=45;userRecordType=45;isUpdate=false;compactCount=0;Message(m > essageID=45;userMessageID=dbd743f0-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42;msg=CoreMessage[messageID=45, > durable=true, userID=dbd743f0-297b-11f1-a547-d4a2cde1ec42, > priority=4, > timestamp=Thu Mar 26 21:25:37 EDT 2026, expiration=0, durable=true, > address=TEST, size=368, > properties=TypedProperties[__AMQ_CID=dbbdef84-297b-11f1-a547- > d4a2cde1ec42, > count=9, ThreadSent=Producer ActiveMQQueue[TEST], thread=0, > _AMQ_ROUTING_TYPE=1]]@1708711928 > recordID=45;userRecordType=32;isUpdate=true;compactCount=0;AddRef;Que > ueEncoding > [queueID=25] > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 6:00 PM Justin Bertram <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Since you're using NFS can you confirm that your mount options > > conform > > to the recommendations in the documentation[1]? If not, can you > > make > > them conform and then re-test? > > > > > > Justin > > > > [1] > > https://artemis.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/ha.html#nfs-mount-recommendations > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 6:17 AM Axel Vestin <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I've observed some strange behaviour regarding the persistance of > > > messages in queues when I restart Apache ActiveMQ Artemis 2.44.0. > > > > > > For example, if i have a queue with some persisted messages in > > > it, move > > > all the messages to another queue, and then restart the service, > > > the > > > messages are back to the original queue. This seems to happen > > > even if i > > > wait a longer duration. > > > > > > I restart using the commands `artemis stop; artemis start`. > > > > > > The broker is configured to use ASYNCIO as journal-type, and the > > > journal is located on an NFS fileshare. > > > > > > I'm happy to provide any information I can to troubleshoot this > > > issue, > > > but does it sound familiar to anyone else? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Axel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > >
