For me too. Camel bindy uses the echange for classloading of the model
classes and use converter

BTW, I think that I will create a BindyContext (like JAXBcontext) that I
could use to parse the messages without Camel


Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect
Apache Camel Committer

*****************************
blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com


On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> I cannot see how we can easily add support for using Camel DataFormat as a
> POJO without the Exchange parameter.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > Yeah but do not use DataFormat but use your own POJO that just does what
> > Camel does to invoke the real marshaller / unmarshaller logic.
> >
> > You do not have to try shoehorn this into DataFormat that cannot work
> > without Exchange.
> > Use POJO and let Camel invoke your POJO as a "data format"
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Charles Moulliard <
> cmoulli...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> This is what I have done but unfortunately, Exchange is a required
> >> parameter
> >> in both methods of DataFormat (
> >>
> >>
> http://camel.apache.org/maven/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/model/dataformat/DataFormatType.html
> >> ):
> >>
> >>  void *marshal<
> >>
> http://camel.apache.org/maven/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/model/dataformat/DataFormatType.html#marshal%28org.apache.camel.Exchange,%20java.lang.Object,%20java.io.OutputStream%29
> >> >
> >> *(Exchange<
> >>
> http://camel.apache.org/maven/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/Exchange.html
> >> >
> >> exchange,
> >> Object<
> >>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html?is-external=true
> >> >
> >> graph,
> >> OutputStream<
> >>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/io/OutputStream.html?is-external=true
> >> >
> >>  stream)
> >>          Marshals the object to the given Stream.
> >>
> >>  Object<
> >>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html?is-external=true
> >> >
> >> *unmarshal<
> >>
> http://camel.apache.org/maven/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/model/dataformat/DataFormatType.html#unmarshal%28org.apache.camel.Exchange,%20java.io.InputStream%29
> >> >
> >> *(Exchange<
> >>
> http://camel.apache.org/maven/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/Exchange.html
> >> >
> >> exchange,
> >> InputStream<
> >>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/io/InputStream.html?is-external=true
> >> >
> >>  stream)
> >>          Unmarshals the given stream into an object.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi
> >> > The Data Format abstraction in Camel is a thin layer. So you could
> >> create
> >> > your own POJO layer you can invoke.
> >> > And in the impl of the POJO layer you more or less do the same as
> Camel
> >> > does, but without the Exchange as parameter.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Charles Moulliard <
> >> cmoulli...@gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > I would like to know if it is possible for a camel bean to call an
> >> > > unmarshall/marshall endpoint/process (I don't know if it must be
> >> > > considerate
> >> > > as an endpoint or process) from a Camel bean ?
> >> > >
> >> > > In a normal routing, we call unmarshall/marshall like this :
> >> > >
> >> > >  <route>
> >> > >    <from uri="direct:start"/>
> >> > >    <marshal ref="myJaxb"/>
> >> > >    <to uri="direct:marshalled"/>
> >> > >  </route>
> >> > >
> >> > > What I would like to do is to declare marshal/unmarshal in a spring
> >> > > DSL file (if it possible) and call it inside a bean ?
> >> > > Why, because the payload to be marshalled/unmarshalled is part of an
> >> > > object and I would like to keep this object during the pipeline
> route.
> >> > >
> >> > > ex
> >> > >
> >> > > <from uri=file://temp/data/>
> >> > > <convertBodyTo type="java.io.String"/>
> >> > > <bean ref="ServiceHelper" method="createRequest" /> // The Request
> >> > > object is an object used by Hibernate and will contain the content
> of
> >> > > the file. So this object cannot be unmarshalled/marshalled by its
> >> > > content well
> >> > > <bean ref="ServiceHelper" method="parseRequest" /> // Method who
> will
> >> > > call the unmarshall/marshall endpoint / process defined in Spring
> DSL
> >> > > file. This method send the string content to the endpoint
> >> > > who will unmarshall by example the content into a collection of
> >> > > Objects. The result is saved into the object Request
> >> > > <bean ref=ServiceHelper" method="saveRequest"/>
> >> > >
> >> > > because it is not possible to do this without loosing the Request
> >> object
> >> > >
> >> > > <from uri=file://temp/data/>
> >> > > <convertBodyTo type="java.io.String"/>
> >> > > <bean ref="ServiceHelper" method="createRequest" />
> >> > > <unmarshall ref="csbBindyDataFormat"/>
> >> > > <bean ref=ServiceHelper" method="saveRequest"/>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Charles Moulliard
> >> > > Senior Enterprise Architect
> >> > > Apache Camel Committer
> >> > >
> >> > > *****************************
> >> > > blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Claus Ibsen
> >> > Apache Camel Committer
> >> >
> >> > Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com
> >> > Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > Apache Camel Committer
> >
> > Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com
> > Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> Apache Camel Committer
>
> Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com
> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus
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