On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM, James Strachan <james.strac...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 19 July 2010 22:12, Ron Smith <ronsmit...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm with you, Jim. I think that is part of why others at my company consider >> spring to be "evil" -- for a "light-weight" framework, there sure are a lot >> of pieces you have to include and they seem to be growing and becoming more >> intertwined with each new release. > > FWIW in the old days, you'd just depend on "spring.jar". The problem > appears worse now that each spring jar is highly modular. >
Unfortunately spring 3.0.x no longer ships an uber jar in maven repos. So we can't just include spring-3.0.3.jar in the release kit. > >> Like you, I'm not griping, it just seems >> like everything in the java open-source world is starting to depend on >> everything else in the java open-source world. > > If you really don't want to depend on spring and your JMS requirements > are quite simple (e.g. you don't want pooling of > producers/sessions/connections, you don't want transactions, > reconnection/retry, concurrent consuming and are happy to work on, > say, JMS 1.1 only) it would be quite easy to create a JMS component & > endpoint which just used the JMS API and did not use Spring at all. > > I agree the Spring JMS stuff looks like it has quite a lot of > dependencies (though part of that is due to its been decoupled into > many jars) - all of which is out of our control. But until someone > comes along with a leaner & meaner library which offers similar > features I don't see much alternative. > > Unless someone (Ron? Jim?) fancies volunteering to write a lean & mean > alternative folks can use if they want to use JMS but not reuse the > spring jars. > > Another alternative Ron/Jim - use uberjar to slap all the spring-jms / > camel-jms / camel stuff together so you only have "camel-all.jar" to > worry about :) > > -- > James > ------- > http://macstrac.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source Integration > http://fusesource.com/ > -- Claus Ibsen Apache Camel Committer Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus
