Hi Mike,

you are certainly right 2 instances on the same server are better than
none, even though if your hardware breaks those 2 instances don't help
really ;)

Regards, Achim

2011/3/29 Michael Dewitte <michael.dewi...@gmail.com>:
> Yes and no, I would say. You're right that it's better to have 2 different
> machines. But IMHO, it's better to have failover between 2 instances on the
> same machine than no fail over at all...
>
> 2011/3/29 Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> but this only makes sense when you use multiple instances on different
>> machines.
>> Doing Failover on the same machine I would rather not recommend.
>>
>> Regards, Achim
>>
>> 2011/3/29 Michael Dewitte <michael.dewi...@gmail.com>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > nice thread, thanks for the sharing... to me, multiple instances makes
>> sense
>> > for fail-over. Just configure it through the ActiveMQ...
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > 2011/3/29 Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> >> Hi Gonzalo,
>> >>
>> >> Makes sense, besides one point, why do you expect you need multiple
>> >> Karaf instances?
>> >> Regarding Camel or Spring there is no need to deploy those in extra
>> >> Servers, because you only got
>> >> one CamelContext/SpringContext per bundle. Therefore I'm sure you can
>> >> use one Karaf instance with all your routes. ActiveMQ can be deployed
>> >> on top of Karaf too, since it is the basis for ServiceMix :)
>> >>
>> >> One reminder though, if you need to communicate effectively between
>> >> different Camel routes in different bundles you should think about
>> >> NMR, which runs best with ServiceMix :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards, Achim
>> >>
>> >> 2011/3/29 gonzalo diethelm <gdieth...@dcv.cl>:
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Achim, thanks for answering.
>> >> >
>> >> >> just my 0.02$ on a container/runtime.
>> >> >> My best experience as runtime for Camel is to use Karaf.
>> >> >> If you need more out of the box components like ActiveMQ and so forth
>> >> >> you might also consider to use Servicemix.
>> >> >
>> >> > OK, my incipient plan so far is to use Karaf to host each of my
>> services
>> >> as a separate bundle, and maybe have several Karaf instances running on
>> a
>> >> single machine. Each bundle (service) will use Spring for its
>> configuration
>> >> and wiring, including bootstrapping Camel. I expect to be able, as well,
>> to
>> >> configure ActiveMQ in this setup directly from Spring, and hopefully
>> avoid
>> >> (for now) ServiceMix, since it seems "pure" Camel will cover all my
>> needs.
>> >> Does this make sense to you?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Gonzalo Diethelm
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

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