David,

could you please have a loot at this whether you see a way to support both
versions (Spring 3.0 and 3.0). At present we only discovered an issue with
the CamelSpringTestContextLoader which is a new class added in Camel
2.10.0. If it's not possible, I'm +1 to postpone the changes we did for [1]
to Camel 2.11.0/3.0.0.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4987

My 0.02$,
Christian

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Claus Ibsen <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Willem Jiang <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Yes, there is no easy way to support both version of Spring at the same
> time
> > just by using the maven profile.
> > Even we use the maven profile, we could put the
> CamelSpringTestContextLoader
> > for spring 3.1 to other directory to let compiler to pick up. We can only
> > support one version of spring in the deploy time.
> >
>
> If its the CamelSpringTestContextLoader then its a new class
> introduced by David with his work on camel-test-spring.
> It has not been released as part of any previous Camel releases.
>
> So we can change it anyway we like, or *remove* it etc.
> IMHO its better to support both Spring 3.0 and 3.1 out of the box with
> no tricks.
>
>
>
> > As we barely use the @CamelSpringJUnit4ClassRunner. Maybe we could
> consider
> > to build the kit with Spring 3.1 and run the unit test with spring 3.0.x
> >
>
> There are people who build from source, and they may build with Spring
> 3.0.x.
> So its not always so easy.
>
> I suggest Camel 2.10 to support both Spring 3.0 and 3.1 (the latter if
> possible). We will have a lot of end users
> who are using either version of Spring.
>
>
>
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >
> > On 3/12/12 5:45 AM, Christian Müller wrote:
> >>
> >> Could you please have a look at [1]. I think it's not possible to
> >> support both versions, but I would be happy if I'm wrong...
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4778
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Willem Jiang <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>    +1 to run test with Spring 3.1 profile.
> >>    As Spring always has a good backward compatibility, I don't think we
> >>    will hit the test issue when we upgrade to Spring 3.1.
> >>
> >>
> >>    On 3/11/12 3:12 AM, Christian Müller wrote:
> >>
> >>        I will add a spring-3.1 profile in my local workspace and see
> >>        how it works
> >>        (we could have a Spring 3.0.x and a Spring 3.1.x build). If this
> >>        works I
> >>        will move on and see how we do it for Karaf...
> >>
> >>        Best,
> >>        Christian
> >>
> >>        On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Christian Müller<
> >>        [email protected]
> >>        <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>            Maybe Stefan don't use the Camel provided features and
> >>            install all the
> >>            needed bundles by its own or build its own feature file
> >>            which use Spring
> >>            3.1.x. That's possible but not recommended, because Camel
> >>            2.9.1 is "only"
> >>            tested with Spring 3.0.x. This means it could work, but you
> >>            cannot be sure.
> >>            It's also possible that may camel-jpa works with Spring
> >>            3.1.x but another
> >>            Camel component e.g. camel-jms/camel-activemq will fail with
> >>            Spring 3.1.x.
> >>
> >>            In the past we already did support two different versions of
> >>            Spring (2.5.x
> >>            and 3.0.x). I'm not sure were we was happy with this
> >>            solution (two
> >>            different feature files in Camel)...
> >>
> >>            Loud thinking:
> >>            At the moment I'm not sure if it's really the best idea that
> >>            Camel reuse
> >>            the Karaf provided Spring feature (may be this is also the
> >>            case for other
> >>            features). The reason is the following:
> >>            Imagine you run Karaf 2.2.x (plain Karaf or ServiceMix) and
> >>            you don't want
> >>            to upgrade your container infrastructure multiple times per
> >>            year (this is
> >>            the case for my company). When you upgrade your Camel based
> >>            application to
> >>            a Camel version which use Spring 3.1.x, you have to:
> >>            - upgrade your container infrastructure also (Karaf)
> >>            - or change the Camel provided feature file and change all
> >>            the places
> >>            where Camel requires the Spring feature (from Karaf) and
> >>            replace it with
> >>            the Spring 3.1.x bundles.
> >>
> >>            Be leveraging the Karaf Spring features it's easier to have
> >>            all the
> >>            dependencies in sync, but it adds an (unnecessary)
> constraint.
> >>            And if Karaf 2.2.6 also use Spring 3.1.x, it doesn't fix
> >>            this constraint...
> >>
> >>            I'm interested in your all opinions.
> >>
> >>            Best,
> >>            Christian
> >>
> >>
> >>            On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:01 PM,
> >>            wanggang1<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>
> >>              wrote:
> >>
> >>                Hi Stefan,
> >>
> >>                When I used Camel 2.9.1, I saw Maven pulled down Spring
> >>                3.0.7-RELEASE as
> >>                dependencies.  When you added Spring 3.1 explicitly, did
> >>                it then cause any
> >>                conflict?
> >>
> >>                Thanks
> >>
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> >>
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