As an integration platform I think this article should will scare some people: http://www.jayway.com/2010/05/07/xslt-transformations-in-oracle-service-bus
In Sweden it has also been notoriously hard to find competence on Oracle, even from Oracle themselves. http://www.jayway.com/2010/05/07/xslt-transformations-in-oracle-service-bus I've worked briefly with the Oracle Service Bus (10.x though) and developing traditional Enteprise Integration solutions take time, alot of time. I guess only real good use case I can think of is if there are a lot of already defined services with WSDL that you can use. 2012/9/14 Charles Moulliard <ch0...@gmail.com> > Never forget that with a BPEL engine, all the steps (= status change > ) defined in a Process must be saved in a DB. With Camel a process could be > a camel route or a collection of camel routes and one camel exchange (= > message) can pass though a collection of processors (= steps defined in a > BPEL workflow). That will simplify your architecture as we can group steps > in a camel route or split them through a collection of camel routes. If > persistence is required to avoid to loose information carried by camel > exchanges, then you can use one of the camel persistence component > supported (JMS, JDBC, JPA, SQL, iBaitis, myIbatis, Hibernate, ...) > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Christian Müller < > christian.muel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > it's cheaper (Camel is for free) > > it's simpler (the Camel DSL is much more readable and understandable) > > it's more flexible (it works with any kind of payload) > > it supports more protocols (more than 120 at present) > > it's more open (you can extend Camel yourself and add new components) > > it has a very good community which helps other users (Red Hat CEO Jim > > Whitehurst says: In the ESB case, that leading community is the Apache > > Camel project: http://tinyurl.com/bphnwfm) > > > > Best, > > Christian > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM, mfcplus <mfcp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should > we > > > use > > > camel over BPEL? I'm trying to convince somebody here to use camel > > instead > > > of oracle SOA 11g that has BPEL engine as so called 'orchestrator'. any > > > references, materials are good, and especially like to have some input > > from > > > the gurus > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > > > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/oracle-BPEL-vs-camel-tp5719204.html > > > Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > Charles Moulliard > Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com > Twitter : @cmoulliard > Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >