Hi Hadrian,
 
Thanks for the quick response of my questions. Your suggestion is helpful. By 
checking this issue further, I noticed that I should have mentioned that we are 
using the OSGI bundles / Karaf to run the camel. Besides OSGI bundles/karaf, we 
also have a numerous translator file ( xslt ) for which the File component is 
used to read them. I am wondering:
 
1) Could the antivirus scan affects the OSGI bundles ( I assume that the Karaf 
dynamically scan the files to see if the files are upadated for hot deployment);
 
2) Whether the translator files are cached by Camel's File component without 
repeately re-open / read / close, for example:
<to uri="xslt://file: dir/sub_dir/sub_dir/translator_file.xslt" /> 
 
Theorectically, would you think the Antivirus scan could cause blockage of the 
files and OSGI bundle (*.jar)? 
   
 
BTW. I noticed a comment about OSGI / antivirus in the item #72 of the 
following link: 
http://kirkk.com/main/pdf/BiggestObstaclesResponse.pdf, which describes:
 Item #72: The biggest problems with any enterprise environment revolve around 
integration
issues. Leveraging OSGi's strengths in modularity and versioning to simplify
integration of existing systems would be a major selling point.
Slow startup time in an enterprise environment can be a problem, though not
necessarily caused by OSGi itself. Rather, the delayed startup is often due to
aggressive scanning of zip files by antivirus solutions. Since OSGi environments
consist of many jar (zip) files, the delay caused by real-time virus scanners 
for
each of the zip files can get out of hand quickly.
 
Would you think the above description is true?
 
In the meantime, I would be doing some testing to see how it works.
 
Best regards
 
Jack
 

From: Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com>
To: users@camel.apache.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Exclude Camel from Antivirus Scan?


Hi Jack,

This is a Windows specific issue (as other OSes do not lock files). That 
aside, you have a conflict between two tools that perform automatic 
processing of files. Unless you manage to provide some sort of 
synchronization you cannot avoid the problem. One way is to eliminate 
one of the tools (the antivirus, by telling IT to exclude the Camel 
folder). This is usually not wrong, depending on the kind of files you 
use. There is a more complex solution that I believe would work that 
involves defining a custom error handler [1] to ignore the errors caused 
by locked files and possibly a redelivery policy [2]. Knowing what kind 
of files you process, you're in the best position to decide which path 
is better.

I hope this helps,
Hadrian

[1] http://camel.apache.org/error-handler.html
[2] http://camel.apache.org/redeliverypolicy.html



On 11/12/2013 08:49 AM, Jack Ding wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The  IT  department is asking if it is necessary to exclude any of the camel 
> related folders/files to be scanned to avoid any impact on performance, 
> malfunction,  etc.  Does anybody have experience / suggestion on Antivirus 
> related issues on Camel and how to avoid them?
>
> It seems that Camel 2.1.0 release has mentoned one of the fix:
>
> The File component handles renaming and deleting files on Windows better as 
> Windows could block files. Also Antivirus software could causes files to be 
> blocked.
>
> Not sure if it is a good idea by just telling IT to exclude the Camel related 
> folders. Could you advise?
>
> Camel: 2.10.0
> OS: Windows 2008
> Antivirus Software: Symantec Endpoint 12.1
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
>

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