Not really true since it prevents from using camel consumers which
doesn't support it so it makes camel not as useful as it could.
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2013/12/15 Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>:
> You can use route policy / event notifier or what not to know when
> there is nothing more to process and then signal to the main thread to
> stop camel and terminate the jvm.
>
> No hacks is needed just use the API there is already there.
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you look camel architecture it is great but not usable for batches
>> *out of the box*. What I find "sad" is the code needed to support this
>> (common) use case shouldn't be that important:
>>
>> CamelContext ctx = new ...();
>> ctx.setSingleShort(true); // or singleExecution(); maybe
>>
>> This would set the same boolean on the consumers which would not wait
>> to get data if nothing is available anymore and would stop the route.
>> Once all routes are stopped the context would be stopped too.
>>
>> This way it would be easy to write cron-ned mains with camel without app 
>> hacks.
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/15 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>:
>>> Romain,
>>>
>>> What do you mean?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hmm, so if I understand you camel will not solve it. I find it sad cause
>>>> camel pipeline and the numerous components are 2 tempting things for
>>>> batches but the fact to be able to process what is here when starting and
>>>> dont wait another messge is no more is present is mandatory to be usable.
>>>>
>>>> I know it is hackable but I dont think it is clean if not in camel itself.
>>>> Context should get an option propagated to consumer for it imo.
>>>> Le 14 déc. 2013 16:32, "kraythe ." <kray...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. Though you could use it to start up and shut down, nothing 
>>>>> stopping
>>>>> you. I would not opt for that choice if I had some sort of deployment
>>>>> system where I could keep the routes running.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Robert Simmons Jr. MSc. - Lead Java Architect @ EA*
>>>>> *Author of: Hardcore Java (2003) and Maintainable Java (2012)*
>>>>> *LinkedIn: **http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-simmons/40/852/a39
>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-simmons/40/852/a39>*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 9:09 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Why not use a polling consumer?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> > <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > > Hi
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > any opinion on how to make consumers consume all what is possible when
>>>>> > > program is running then shutdown the route once processed?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > It is basically needed for BatchEE camel extension (
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-batchee.git;a=blob;f=extensions/camel/src/main/java/org/apache/batchee/camel/CamelItemReader.java;h=bf4d289a8fea4a18f783353c3cb25d1aa9050018;hb=HEAD
>>>>> > > ) + I wondered it for some batches I wrote some months ago without
>>>>> > > camel because the infra needed for it was too heavy (route policy +
>>>>> > > few other things) compared to the gain.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > ATM batchee relies on timeout but surely not the best way to do.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>>> > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>>> > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>>> > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>
>
>
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