Hi,

It's just an idea off the top of my head, but what about providing a parity
check header in company with the header you want to be immutable. I.e.

YOUR_HEADER = "Do not change!"
YOUR_HEADER_MD5 = "fef4de21954d4b9f1b3e61ed153799da"

or

YOUR_HEADER_HASH = "md5:fef4de21954d4b9f1b3e61ed153799da"

When making use of this header, you can always validate if it's not changed
in the routes.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 6:03 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me give a more specific use case. Path parameters from rest-dsl are
> passed in as message headers. I don't want any route to accidentally
> overwrite or modify those headers as they're useful for the entire
> lifecycle of that message.
>
> On 5 July 2016 at 16:00, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The exact use case is preventing developers from [inadvertently]
> modifying
> > headers or properties that are used before and after a particular
> subroute.
> >
> > On 5 July 2016 at 15:57, souciance <souciance.eqdam.ras...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I guess the question is, why would different routes split over different
> >> bundles want to write over the same header/property? What's the case
> here?
> >> Surely it cannot be just to prevent accidents by developers because what
> >> would be their reason to write over that header?
> >>
> >> I think it is better to agree on a naming and some sort of other
> >> convention
> >> and stick to that because I don't think there is a way to to make a
> header
> >> immutable. I guess an ugly solution would be to save the header in a map
> >> and give the key name something very unique.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Matt Sicker [via Camel] <
> >> ml-node+s465427n578481...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Please let me know if you think of anything!
> >> >
> >> > On 5 July 2016 at 15:16, Brad Johnson <[hidden email]
> >> > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5784811&i=0>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I certainly understand the impulse and think it is spot on but can't
> >> > think
> >> > > of how to do it with headers.  Claim checks might work but they are
> >> > really
> >> > > for reducing overhead of data and not for locking like that but that
> >> > might
> >> > > be a viable solution depending on the exact problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks Matt, this is going to be stuck in my head now.  I'll
> probably
> >> > dream
> >> > > of an answer of some sort tonight.
> >> > >
> >> > > Brad
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Matt Sicker <[hidden email]
> >> > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5784811&i=1>> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > My use case is basically to help prevent bugs where a header or
> >> > exchange
> >> > > > property gets modified. Some of my routes in question branch out
> >> into
> >> > > > several different bundles, and it is difficult to enforce
> contracts
> >> > that
> >> > > > way amongst several developers with varying levels of Camel
> >> expertise.
> >> > > > Similar to how one might use final variables to prevent people
> from
> >> > > > reassigning them, this could be a final header that prevents
> people
> >> > from
> >> > > > reusing them for things.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 5 July 2016 at 14:22, Brad Johnson <[hidden email]
> >> > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5784811&i=2>>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > That's what I figured.  I'd have to look at the Map
> implementation
> >> > of
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > exchange but as far as I know there isn't a way to make it a
> write
> >> > once
> >> > > > > only operation.  It's just a map of some sort.  There might be a
> >> way
> >> > to
> >> > > > do
> >> > > > > it with transactions but I'm not an expert there.  I generally
> use
> >> > > > headers
> >> > > > > but in reality should probably be using exchange properties more
> >> > often.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10330998/passing-values-between-processors-in-apache-camel
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Almost any mechanism I can think of off the top of my head could
> >> be
> >> > > > > subverted by someone who wanted to or who didn't understand that
> >> the
> >> > > > value
> >> > > > > associated with the bean shouldn't be modified.  For example,
> you
> >> > could
> >> > > > > create a bean that you associate with your header that stores
> data
> >> > but
> >> > > > also
> >> > > > > returns a UUID.  That UUID could be stored in another header and
> >> > > sometime
> >> > > > > later in the routes you could verify that the bean stored under
> >> your
> >> > > key
> >> > > > > returns the same UUID as the header indicates.  But that
> wouldn't
> >> > stop
> >> > > > > someone from changing the bean stored to the key and it wouldn't
> >> > > prevent
> >> > > > > them from updating the UUID to a new bean they might create.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Matt Sicker <[hidden email]
> >> > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5784811&i=3>> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I'm thinking of an idea to prevent a header from being
> modified
> >> by
> >> > > > other
> >> > > > > > parts of the route. A sort of contract if you will.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On 5 July 2016 at 13:01, Brad Johnson <[hidden email]
> >> > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5784811&i=4>>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is there another part of your process that is specifically
> >> > changing
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > header or are you more concerned about it being consistently
> >> > there
> >> > > > > across
> >> > > > > > > routes?  Nothing will change it automatically if it is your
> >> > header.
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > > > don't remember the actual implementation but conceptually it
> >> is
> >> > > just
> >> > > > a
> >> > > > > > > hastable/map with key/values.  If you set header with some
> >> > specific
> >> > > > key
> >> > > > > > > then nothing else will change it.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > As an example, I use a camel splitter and then set a header
> >> with
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > splitter index so that I can use it in another route later
> to
> >> > > > > reassemble
> >> > > > > > > with the resequencer.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > <split>
> >> > > > > > > <simple>${body}</simple>
> >> > > > > > > <setHeader headerName="seqnum">
> >> > > > > > > <simple>exchangeProperty.CamelSplitIndex</simple>
> >> > > > > > > </setHeader>
> >> > > > > > > ...
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > The "seqnum" is just a key that I'm defining.  I could
> >> obviously
> >> > > call
> >> > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > anything "sequenceNumber" or whatever but when I access it
> >> later
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > > > header is available on the exchange. If I explicitly change
> >> what
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > map
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > > storing for "seqnum" then it will be different because I
> can't
> >> > make
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > header map itself immutable.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Matt Sicker <[hidden email]
> >> > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5784811&i=5>>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > As in once I set the header, nothing can change the header
> >> > during
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > lifecycle of the message during a route. Same for an
> >> exchange
> >> > > > > property.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > --
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> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
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> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
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