Hi again,

I checked the source code of RouteWatcherReloadStrategy from here:
https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/00526e77bfa88bc20bcde640487cf7d83629e49d/core/camel-support/src/main/java/org/apache/camel/support/RouteWatcherReloadStrategy.java#L274

To me it looks like the warning "Routes with no id's detected"... is
always printed if there are routes with custom ids:

                for (String id : ids) {
                    Route route = getCamelContext().getRoute(id);
                    if (route.isCustomId()) {
                        sj.add(route.getEndpoint().getEndpointUri());
                    }
                }
                if (sj.length() > 0) {
                    LOG.warn(
                            "Routes with no id's detected. Its
recommended to assign route id's to your routes so Camel can reload
the routes correctly.\n    Unassigned routes:\n    {}",
                            sj);
                }

ma 26. jouluk. 2022 klo 15.30 Mikael Koskinen (mijap...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
>
> Hey,
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure. The unit test you linked seems to use the "id"
> field like I used when defining the route. But the assert uses
> "routeId".  For example the test:
>
> when:
> loadRoutes '''
> - route:
> id: demo-route <---- Here's the "id" field
> def "load route inlined camelCase"() {
>
> But in the assert:
>
> context.routeDefinitions.size() == 1
>
> with(context.routeDefinitions[0], RouteDefinition) {
> routeId == 'demo-route' <----- Here's routeId instead of "id"
>
> But as I previously tested, Karavan uses "id".
>
> In the first message I posted the log seems to state that "id" is the
> way to go as Camel reports when starting the route:
>
> 2022-12-26 11:28:42.504  INFO 79551 --- [
> main]e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext :     Started firstRoute
>
> Where "firstRoute" is the "id". But the problem is that when live
> reloading happens, Camel reports that no id has been set. Even though
> in the previous line it states that the route with id "firstRoute" has
> been started.
>
> ma 26. jouluk. 2022 klo 14.58 Claus Ibsen (claus.ib...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > See some unit tests
> > https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/main/dsl/camel-yaml-dsl/camel-yaml-dsl/src/test/groovy/org/apache/camel/dsl/yaml/RoutesTest.groovy#L198
> >
> > You can also use Apache Camel Karavan to design yaml routes as it builds
> > the YAML correct
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 12:09 PM Mikael Koskinen <mijap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks! I tried routeId and route-id but got the following error on both:
> > >
> > > Unsupported field: routeId
> > >  in file:timers.yaml, line 2, column 5:
> > >         routeId: firstRoute
> > >         ^
> > >
> > >     at
> > > org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.RouteDefinitionDeserializer.setProperties(RouteDefinitionDeserializer.java:128)
> > >     at
> > > org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.deserializers.RouteDefinitionDeserializer.setProperties(RouteDefinitionDeserializer.java:33)
> > >     at
> > > org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.common.YamlDeserializerBase.construct(YamlDeserializerBase.java:65)
> > >     at
> > > org.apache.camel.dsl.yaml.common.YamlDeserializationContext$2.construct(YamlDeserializationContext.java:215)
> > >
> > > This is the route:
> > >
> > > - route:
> > > routeId: firstRoute
> > > from:
> > > uri: "timer:yaml"
> > > parameters:
> > > period: "2000"
> > > steps:
> > > - setBody:
> > > constant: "Hello Camel from yaml timer 300"
> > > - log: "${body}"
> > >
> > > If I use Karavan to set the ID of the route, it sets the "id" field:
> > >
> > > - route:
> > > from:
> > > uri: timer:yaml
> > > steps:
> > > - setBody:
> > > expression:
> > > constant:
> > > expression: Hello Camel from yaml timer 300
> > > - log:
> > > message: ${body}
> > > parameters:
> > > period: '2000'
> > > id: routeIdFromKaravan
> > >
> > >
> > > ma 26. jouluk. 2022 klo 12.02 Claus Ibsen (claus.ib...@gmail.com)
> > > kirjoitti:
> > > >
> > > > And it can use camelCase too, so routeId or route-id are both possible.
> > > > However routeId is recommended so you use same case as XML, Java DSL 
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 11:00 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > Use route-id to set id for routes
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 10:38 AM Mikael Koskinen <mijap...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm testing how the route reload works if one file has multiple
> > > > >> routes. I've defined two routes in a single file and assigned ids to
> > > > >> both:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> - route:
> > > > >> id: firstRoute
> > > > >> from:
> > > > >> uri: "timer:yaml"
> > > > >> parameters:
> > > > >> period: "2000"
> > > > >> steps:
> > > > >> - setBody:
> > > > >> constant: "Hello Camel from yaml timer 30"
> > > > >> - log: "${body}"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> - route:
> > > > >> id: secondRoute
> > > > >> from:
> > > > >> uri: "timer:yaml"
> > > > >> parameters:
> > > > >> period: "3000"
> > > > >> steps:
> > > > >> - setBody:
> > > > >> constant: "Hello Camel from yaml timer this one"
> > > > >> - log: "${body}"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> When I run the routes I can see the ids:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:28:42.504  INFO 79551 --- [           main]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext :     Started firstRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:28:42.504  INFO 79551 --- [           main]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext :     Started secondRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Then I've enabled live reload using application.properties with
> > > > >> camel.main.routes-reload-remove-all-routes set to false. Here's the
> > > > >> full application.properties:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> # routes to load
> > > > >> camel.main.routes-reload-enabled = true
> > > > >> camel.main.routes-reload-directory = file:./
> > > > >> camel.main.routes-reload-pattern = *.yaml
> > > > >> camel.main.routes-reload-remove-all-routes = false
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Now when I use Camel Jbang to run the routes:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> camel run timers.yaml
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can see the route ids and the mention that live reload is enabled:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:32:03.051  INFO 79751 --- [           main]
> > > > >> upport.FileWatcherResourceReloadStrategy : Live route reloading
> > > > >> enabled (directory: .)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:32:03.073  INFO 79751 --- [           main]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext : Routes startup (started:2)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:32:03.073  INFO 79751 --- [           main]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext :     Started firstRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:32:03.073  INFO 79751 --- [           main]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext :     Started secondRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But when I modify one of the routes in the timers.yaml, I get an
> > > > >> warning about missing ids:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.522  INFO 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext : Stopped firstRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.523  INFO 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext : Shutdown firstRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.524  INFO 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext : Stopped secondRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.524  INFO 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> e.camel.impl.engine.AbstractCamelContext : Shutdown secondRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.537  INFO 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> camel.support.RouteWatcherReloadStrategy : Routes reloaded summary
> > > > >> (total:2 started:2)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.537  INFO 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> camel.support.RouteWatcherReloadStrategy :     Started firstRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml) (source: timers.yaml:4)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.537  INFO 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> camel.support.RouteWatcherReloadStrategy :     Started secondRoute
> > > > >> (timer://yaml) (source: timers.yaml:15)
> > > > >> 2022-12-26 11:33:48.538  WARN 79845 --- [rReloadStrategy]
> > > > >> camel.support.RouteWatcherReloadStrategy : Routes with no id's
> > > > >> detected. Its recommended to assign route id's to your routes so 
> > > > >> Camel
> > > > >> can reload the routes correctly.
> > > > >>     Unassigned routes:
> > > > >>     timer://yaml?period=2000
> > > > >>     timer://yaml?period=3000
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A bug?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >> Mikael
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Claus Ibsen
> > > > > -----------------
> > > > > @davsclaus
> > > > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Claus Ibsen
> > > > -----------------
> > > > @davsclaus
> > > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
> > @davsclaus
> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2

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