I have adjusted the priorities.
I would be willing to work with someone who knows what they are doing to fix these issues.

Ron

On 28/08/2013 12:55 PM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com> 
wrote:

I am hoping that an installation procedure that will not install would be 
considered a critical/major blocker.
It stops everyone trying to get started with CloudStack and generates a ton of 
work in this forum fixing installations that are not working.


The dev team asked for help, we read the docs, wrote the JIRAs. Some of the 
fixes for the JIRAs are pretty clear and some require a bit of thought and some 
restructuring of the docs to get rid of useless commentary or to move stuff 
from one place to another.

Someone has to fix the docs or fix the software to match the docs.

There are probably more bugs in the installation but since I have never been 
able to find out the exact error or omission that causes the problem, I have 
not been able to write a JIRA for that.
I have never been able to get it to install so I can not even suggest how to 
describe the network setup in a way that makes sense and works.

The installation needs to be tested by someone who will know that the step is 
wrong or that some other step needs to be added.
I am willing to act as a dumb sysadmin beside someone who knows what it is 
supposed to say but I have written as many JIRAs as I know how, at the moment

Ron
Ron thanks for that,

I believe that we all recognize that the docs need a lot of work. We as a 
community have discussed breaking out the docs in a separate repository so that 
they can be managed easier and fixes can be made public between releases.

Also while there are clearly dev folks in this community, everyone can help fix 
the docs, by providing JIRA tickets as you have done, or even by submitting 
patches to fix them.

Everyone is doing its best to make CloudStack a great software project. They 
are over 280 clouds in production that we know of, so while the docs are not 
great, a lot of folks manage to get it working.

I am looking at your bugs now, in my spare time, and I will see if I can fix a 
few of them once I put my kids to sleep. If you want you can actually make them 
blocker bugs and join the dev@ list to make your point that they need to be 
fixe before releasing 4.2.

We would really appreciate the help from anyone on these lists to help file 
bugs and fix them.

thanks,

-Sebastien


On 28/08/2013 11:59 AM, Conrad Geiger wrote:
Blockers are usually the issues that prevent a release.  Other bugs are often 
fixed in a point release.  Time based released makes it a little interesting.

They did recently ask for help on the docs from the community.



-------- Original message --------
From: Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
Date: 08/28/2013 11:54 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Are we going to see CS 4.2 rc1 out anytime soon?


I hope that someone on the dev side is checking for outstanding issues
before putting it to a vote.
There is no point asking us to write JIRA issues if they are not going
to be addressed.
These documentation problems have been around for a long time without
getting fixed and they cause a lot of problems.

Has anyone tested the installation instructions as part of the QA
testing process?

Ron

On 28/08/2013 11:35 AM, Conrad Geiger wrote:
They are currently on the third round of voting. Checkout the dev list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:28 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Are we going to see CS 4.2 rc1 out anytime soon?

On 28/08/2013 10:52 AM, Dean Kamali wrote:
Hello everyone

going over docs, CS 4.2 rc1 should be released today, just wondering
if we are going to see it soon.

Thanks

Still 10 JIRA issues that I reported, open against installation docs.


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Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102





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Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102



--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102




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Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

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