That's the insight I needed, and indeed, you are correct. Appreciate the very 
quick response from you fellows.
Noel

> From: jayapalreddy.ur...@citrix.com
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: V4.1 Advanced Network, VR reboot, NAT rules gone
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:02:55 +0000
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Rebooting the VR outside the cloudstack, will not program the NAT/firewall 
> rules.
> If you reboot the VR from the cloudstack then rules get programmed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jayapal
> 
> On 13-Sep-2013, at 5:10 AM, Noel Kendall <noeldkend...@hotmail.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> > FW rules are not persistent in VR? I am trying to figure out why a V4.1 VR 
> > does not properly NAT, and of course,reboot several times to reset state. I 
> > see that after each reboot, the NAT rules are gone. If I go to the mgr, and 
> > touchthe rules for the network in some way, the rules are re-instated.
> > Makes me think that the mgr is not aware of the VR change of state on 
> > reboot, and is failing to command it with properset of rules.
> > Rather discouraging. I had a working environment in 4.0.1, now, toast.
> > Thoughts??
> > N                                     
> 
                                          

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