Here are my interfaces and I am sure the labels are correct. Any other ideas?

This is for my management ip, I couldn't put it on the bridge as my clustered file system would keep fencing it self.

cat ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE="eth0"
BOOTPROTO=static
HWADDR="78:E7:D1:8E:2F:AE"
NM_CONTROLLED="none"
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE="Ethernet"
IPADDR=172.16.0.11
NETMASK=255.255.0.0
GATEWAY=172.16.0.1

This is where the physicals for my bridges start

cat ifcfg-eth1
DEVICE=eth1
BOOTPROTO=none
HWADDR=78:E7:D1:8E:2F:B0
ONBOOT=yes
USERCTL=no
NM_CONTROLLED=no
BRIDGE=cloudbr0

cat ifcfg-cloudbr0
DEVICE=cloudbr0
NM_CONTROLLED=no
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Bridge
NAME=cloudbr0

cat ifcfg-eth2
DEVICE=eth2
BOOTPROTO=none
HWADDR=78:E7:D1:8E:2F:B2
ONBOOT=yes
USERCTL=no
BRIDGE=cloudbr1
NM_CONTROLLED=no

cat ifcfg-cloudbr1
DEVICE=cloudbr1
NM_CONTROLLED=no
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Bridge
NAME=cloudbr1

cat ifcfg-eth3
DEVICE=eth3
BOOTPROTO=none
HWADDR=78:E7:D1:8E:2F:B4
ONBOOT=yes
USERCTL=no
BRIDGE=cloudbr2
NM_CONTROLLED=no

cat ifcfg-cloudbr2
DEVICE=cloudbr2
NM_CONTROLLED=no
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Bridge
BOOTPROTO=none
NAME=cloudbr2

The interfaces match my layout and the physical network

cloudbr0 - Management
cloudbr1 - guest
cloudbr2 - public

brctl show
bridge name     bridge id               STP enabled     interfaces
cloud0          8000.fe00a9fe01e4       no              vnet0
                                                        vnet3
cloudbr0                8000.78e7d18e2fb0       no              eth1
                                                        vnet1
                                                        vnet4
                                                        vnet6
cloudbr1                8000.78e7d18e2fb2       no              eth2
cloudbr2                8000.78e7d18e2fb4       no              eth3
                                                        vnet2
                                                        vnet5
virbr0          8000.5254007e4d34       yes             virbr0-nic










On 04/08/2014 02:28 PM, Geoff Higginbottom wrote:
I would check the traffic labels for the management network match for your zone 
and hosts.

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On 8 Apr 2014, at 17:44, "Matthew Midgett" 
<supp...@trickhosting.biz<mailto:supp...@trickhosting.biz>> wrote:

My problem is that the ssvm will not ping anything on the management network, 
It will not do dns lookups as it will not ping past the default public gateway. 
The ssvm is up and I can ping the public ip from a different subnet.

If i remove this I can use external dns and the ssvm can ping anything public
8.8.4.4         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
8.8.8.8         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1

I change the values as Geoff had suggested and I rebooted the management 
service. Then i destroyed the ssvm so it would be recreated with the new 
changes. Here is the route as it is now and not working.

root@s-9-VM:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
0.0.0.0         216.249.111.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0 0        0 eth2
8.8.4.4         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
8.8.8.8         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth1
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth3
216.249.111.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0 0        0 eth2

To me it doesn't look like the use external dns setting to true didn't do 
anything. It sill wants to tell the dns to go across the management network. 
That would be fine if the routes to the management network worked.

I'm willing to pay someone to help me at this point.


On 04/08/2014 12:10 PM, Erik Weber wrote:
You don't need gateway for network in the same subnet on an interface.

You never told us what your real problem is (i think), so why not start by
telling us what is not working :-)

As i tried to explain, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 will be routed over the mgmt
interface if it's entered as the internal dns. If that is your problem, try
changing the value Geoff suggested.

Erik
8. apr. 2014 17:10 skrev "Matthew Midgett" 
<supp...@trickhosting.biz<mailto:supp...@trickhosting.biz>>
følgende:

Erik that would  be fine but this is wrong, this means its going to route
over the public address as 0.0.0.0 points to my public gateway.

172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth1
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth3


On 04/08/2014 11:03 AM, Erik Weber wrote:

If you use the same dns servers for both internal and external it will add
a route over mgmt interface.

Erik Weber
8. apr. 2014 16:07 skrev "Matthew Midgett" 
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følgende:

  I destroyed the VM so it would create a new route. First off the 8.8.8.8
and 8.8.4.4 should have a default gateway of 0.0.0.0 if its to use the
public address to get dns. If its supposed to use the management network
then the 172.16.0.0     0.0.0.0 should be 172.16.0.0     172.16.0.1

This way it doesn't route properly

root@s-4-VM:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
0.0.0.0         216.249.111.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0 0        0 eth2
8.8.4.4         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
8.8.8.8         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth1
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth3
216.249.111.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0 0        0 eth2

This way works.

root@s-4-VM:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
0.0.0.0         216.249.111.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0 0        0 eth2
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0
172.16.0.0      172.16.0.1         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0
eth1
172.16.0.0      172.16.0.1         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0
eth3
216.249.111.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0 0        0 eth2

Still  not sure where I should put this. I know its the way that Im
connecting to it but what route should it take? I'm thinking it should be
172.16.0.0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0




On 04/08/2014 01:35 AM, Geoff Higginbottom wrote:

  Matthew,
Can you give examples of the routes you are seeing and explain why they
are wrong please.

Regards

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On 7 Apr 2014, at 22:24, "Matthew Midgett" 
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mailto:supp...@trickhosting.biz>> wrote:

My system vm's are being created with the wrong routes. Manually
deleting
and adding them fixes the problem. Where would I go to fix this
permanently?


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