Hi Thura,

afaik, yes.
But please keep in mind that I’m not at ACS guru, so there might be a way which 
I’m not aware of.
For us it was a quite painless migration which was the most important thing.

Regards
Christian
> On 6. Dec 2017, at 06:07, Thura, Minn Minn <fj608...@aa.jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christian,
> 
> Appreciate your sharing.
> So the conclusion is there is no way to achieve the below and we have to 
> resort to "one stroke replace".  
> ---------------------
> First, to make the system create new template and snapshot only on new 
> secstorage
>   while keeping old secstorage for current snapshot and template.
> ---------------------
> 
> Thanks,
> Thura (Fujitsu FIP)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: christian.kir...@zv.fraunhofer.de 
> [mailto:christian.kir...@zv.fraunhofer.de] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:32 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Things to consider in replacing secondary storage
> 
> Hi Thura,
> 
> at the beginning of the year, we also faces this challenge.
> Eventually we used the “one stroke” method which Vivek has described.
> Since we have about 80TB of sec storage it was not option to copy the data 
> while the management servers are down.
> Thankfully our storage system has a built-in feature to synchronise data 
> between volumes, so we synched the data over a couple of days and made a 
> clean cut during our maintenance where we only had to sync the remaining few 
> gigabytes which were new on the old storage.
> If your secondary storage is based on linux you probably can achieve this via 
> rsync or similar tools.
> 
> Regards
> Christian
> 
> On 5. Dec 2017, at 10:40, Thura, Minn Minn 
> <fj608...@aa.jp.fujitsu.com<mailto:fj608...@aa.jp.fujitsu.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Vivek,
> 
> Appreciate sharing your steps.
> I understand that ur procedure is replacing secstorage at one stroke.
> The copy process will take a very long time(about 1 month) in our environment 
> for tens of TB.
> 
> What we would like to achieve is something like below:
> First, to make the system create new template and snapshot only on new 
> secstorage
>   while keeping old secstorage for current snapshot and template.
> Second, we will gradually copy current snapshot and template to new 
> secstorage and change appropriate db info.
> 
> The problem is I could not find any way to achieve First step.
> (Will filling some dummy data to hog all available space in current 
> secstorage do the trick? Or any other smart way?) Maybe I could use ur 
> procedure to achieve our Second step.
> 
> Thanks,
> Thura (Fujitsu FIP)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vivek Kumar [mailto:vivek.ku...@indiqus.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 5:44 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Things to consider in replacing secondary storage
> 
> Hello Thura,
> 
> I have done this earlier on as well. Steps which I have followed-
> 
> 1- Create a new secondary storage-
> 2- Mount this secondary storage at any host. ( mount -t nfs 
> x.x.x.x/x:/<New_Sec_Storage_Path> /<any_mount_point> ), make sure that your 
> older secondary storage is also mounted.
> 3- Stop all running Management Servers and  Wait 30 minutes. This allows any 
> writes to secondary storage to complete.
> 4- Copy all data from older secondary storage to newly secondary storage by 
> using cp -Rv ( i.e cp -rp /secondary1/* /secondary2 ).
> 5- Check the integrity of data, make sure that all data has been copied, 
> double check the size , permission, all folders  on the new secondary storage.
> 6- Once you are done with above steps. Now take the DB backup, Please don’t 
> forget to take DB Backup, also new secondary storage should be reachable from 
> host and management server.
> 
> Suppose I have a two NFS server where I have created 2 directories( 
> /secondary1 on first NFS server  and /secondary2 on secondary server)  and 
> shared via NFS.
> 
> First NFS server Path - 192.168.0.100/secondary1 Second NFS Server Path- 
> 192.168.0.200/secondary2
> 
> Please make sure that all data have been copied successfully from  secondary1 
> to  secondary2. ( Double Check the data )
> 
> View of image_store which was looking as below.
> 
> Please make sure that all data have been copied successfully from  secondary1 
> to  secondary2. ( Double Check the data )
> 
> mysql> select * from image_store\G
> *************************** 1. row ***************************
>                id: 1
>              name: Secondary1
> image_provider_name: NFS
>          protocol: nfs
>               url: nfs://192.168.0.100/secondary1
>    data_center_id: 1
>             scope: ZONE
>              role: Image
>              uuid: 4a18559e-e6e8-4329-aac6-9ea6c74ec5e6
>            parent: 5554e6ec-0dea-3881-9943-d06a6ebe17e8
>           created: 2016-10-04 15:13:40
>           removed: NULL
>        total_size: NULL
>        used_bytes: NULL
> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)
> 
> Now i want to replace the IP and mount point of the existing secondary 
> storage.
> 
> So
> 
> # mysql -p
> mysql> use cloud;
> mysql> select id from image_store where url like '%old ip address%'; 
> mysql> update image_store set url = 'nfs://192.168.0.200/secondary2'
> mysql> where id =1;
> 
> Now my tables looks like
> 
> select * from image_store\G
> *************************** 1. row ***************************
>                id: 1
>              name: Secondary1
> image_provider_name: NFS
>          protocol: nfs
>               url: nfs://192.168.0.200/secondary2
>    data_center_id: 1
>             scope: ZONE
>              role: Image
>              uuid: 4a18559e-e6e8-4329-aac6-9ea6c74ec5e6
>            parent: 5554e6ec-0dea-3881-9943-d06a6ebe17e8
>           created: 2016-10-04 15:13:40
>           removed: NULL
>        total_size: NULL
>        used_bytes: NULL
> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)
> 
> 7- Now you can start the management server, then stop and start the SSVM,
> 8- check the agent state, it should be in up state if not then check the 
> connectivity from host and management server as well.
> 9 -Login to SSVM, and check the mouth point, you will see that new secondary 
> storage has been mounted successfully.
> 10- Try to take a snapshot and  also try to provision VM from old template.
> 
> Please test it in our test environment first before hitting it in production.
> 
> 
> Vivek Kumar
> Virtualization and Cloud Consultant
> 
> 
> On 05-Dec-2017, at 1:33 PM, Thura, Minn Minn 
> <fj608...@aa.jp.fujitsu.com<mailto:fj608...@aa.jp.fujitsu.com>> wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Does anyone have experience in replacing secondary storage?
> We need to replace current sec storage(with a new one) as it will soon be end 
> of support.
> 
> We are considering the process as follow.
> 1.) Register new secstore.
> 2.) Make new template to be created in new secstore.
> 3.) Make new snapshot to be created in new secstore.
> 4.) Copy current template and snapshot from old secstore to new secstore.
> 5.) Change db info of copied template and snapshot to reflect new secstore.
> 
> We know (1) very well :)
> 
> We would like to know if there is any way to achieve (2) and (3).
> 
> Regarding with (4),
> There are 4 dir under SecStorage. (Snapshots, systemvm, template,
> volumes)  In our understanding, only snapshots and template dir are necessary 
> to copy to new storage.
> Systemvm and volumes dir are not necessary to copy as it is for temporary 
> storage.(Original data are stored in primary store.)  Please correct me if I 
> am wrong.
> 
> Regarding with (5),
> For template, we assume it is enough to change template_store_ref.store_id to 
> new secstore.
>  Please correct me if I am wrong.
> For snapshot, we would like to know what db info should be changed for 
> XenServer and VMware.
> (XenServer implement 16 chains while VMware use full clone in taking
> snapshot.)
> 
> Thanks,
> Thura (Fujitsu FIP)
> 

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