Andrija, cool stuff.

Do you run it with multicast or BGP EVPN? Looks like multicast is not the
best approach for large-scale deployments.

ср, 14 нояб. 2018 г. в 13:38, Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>:

> Simon just explained it well - and a few additions from my side, in case it
> helps
>
> Read details in this page, in order to avoid some hard issues during later
> production (beside MTU, check the max_igmp_membership etc...)
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.11.1.0/plugins/vxlan.html
>
> Here is example from one of my dev setups, if that helps - but it boils
> down to what Simon shared.
>
> bond0.150 is the vlan 150 that is dedicated to carry all VXLAN "tunnels"
> (it HAS to have the IP, it serves as VTEP basically) - you would probably
> want to define this as separate PHYSICAL NETWORK during zone provisioning
> (because other networks i.e. management, storage, public doesn't support
> vxlan as isolation method) - so you define "bond.150" as the KVM traffic
> label for Guest Network
>
> (FYI: you could also create bridge cloudXYZ that has bond0.150 as member
> and use this as KMV traffic label, but cloudstack will just extract child
> interface, bond0.150 and create later the structure on its own - while
> cloudXYZ bridge is NOT used anywhere else)
>
>
> So my setup, bond0.150. Cloudstack needs to create i.e. vxlan structure
> with vxlan id 9999, so it will take bond0.150 and create VXLAN interface on
> top of it (ip -d link show vxlan9999, to see it's properties ....)
>
> After cloudstack has created a vxlan interface (on top of you vlan
> interface), it will then create a bridge (brvx-9999) and finally join vm's
> NIC to this bridge so both vxlan interface and VMs vNIC will be part of
> bridge.
>
> That's it - works well as Simon said, last 4 years in production with
> vxlan.
>
> Here is any UGLY but informative drawing from my side :)
>
> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1oPWU5p_wUd9UPhXGZg7j4acu5XYPbkLWzmihi6Qbwl8/edit?usp=sharing
>
> So you can see tunnels etc. On the picture are also some other networks
> like public network on vlan 160 etc...
> (images on Simon's link are excellent, just old bridge names)
>
>
> In case you use VXLAN for Guest networks (VPC networks, isolated, etc) -
> make sure to understand that Private Gateway network only supports VLAN,
> not VXLAN, it's usefull to know, since I later had to add new physical
> networks to support Private Gateway (didn't plan originally for it).
>
>
> CHeers
>
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 18:29, Simon Weller <swel...@ena.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alexandre,
> >
> >
> > VXLAN on KVM works very well and we've had it in production for a number
> > of years now.
> >
> >
> > Please see this document on how it is implemented:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Linux+native+VXLAN+support+on+KVM+hypervisor
> >
> > Cloudstack does create all the VXLAN configuration for each new network,
> > you  just need to have a working underlay that supports multicast (e.g.
> an
> > IP on the VXLAN interface and iptables rules rules that allow multicast
> > traffic).
> > We place our VXLANs into a VLAN and expose that VLAN via a KVM traffic
> > label to the VXLAN guest network.
> >
> > - Si
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Alexandre Bruyere <bruyere.alexan...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:32 AM
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Information on VXLAN implementations (and other guest isolation
> > methods)
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I'm currently investigating guest isolation methods for a project. The
> idea
> > was thrown about to use VXLANs, but it's rather fuzzy on how it actually
> is
> > implemented.
> >
> > Does Cloudstack automatically create and maintain VXLAN connections, or
> > does it ride off an already-implemented VXLAN system configured under the
> > hood?
> >
> > And what would be the use cases for VXLANs? Would it be appropriate to
> use
> > in a small-scale network for hybrid clusters? If not, what would the
> > Cloudstack community recommend?
> >
> > Thanks for your time!
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
>


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