Yes, sorry for that, can use NAT 6 also .    I mentiioned DHCP6 , and you
can point the gateway to /48 gw, and this does not need any BGP.  Maintain
BGP or OSPF is good, but is a lot more complicated ,

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:57 PM Alex Mattioli <alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> Hi Hean,
> Do you mean using NAT66?  Or did I miss something?
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hean Seng <heans...@gmail.com>
> Sent: 14 July 2021 16:44
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>; d...@cloudstack.apache.org; Wei
> Zhou <wei.z...@shapeblue.com>; Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>;
> Gabriel Beims Bräscher <gabr...@pcextreme.nl>
> Subject: Re: IPV6 in Isolated/VPC networks
>
> Hi
>
> I replied in another thread, i think do not need implement BGP or OSPF,
> that would be complicated .
>
> We only need assign  IPv6 's /64 prefix to Virtual Router (VR) in NAT
> zone, and the VR responsible to deliver single IPv6 to VM via DHCP6.
>
> In VR, you need to have Default IPv6 route to  Physical Router's /48. IP as
> IPv6 Gateway.  Thens should be done .
>
> Example :
> Physical Router Interface
>  IPv6 IP : 2000:aaaa::1/48
>
> Cloudstack  virtual router : 2000:aaaa:200:201::1/64 with default ipv6
> route to router ip 2000:aaaa::1 and Clodustack Virtual router dhcp allocate
> IP to VM , and  VM will have default route to VR. IPv6 2000:aaaa:200:201::1
>
> So in cloudstack need to allow  user to enter ,  IPv6 gwateway , and the
> /48 Ipv6 prefix , then it will self allocate the /64 ip to the VR , and
> maintain make sure not ovelap allocation
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:55 PM Alex Mattioli <alex.matti...@shapeblue.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Wido,
> > That's pretty much in line with our thoughts, thanks for the input.  I
> > believe we agree on the following points then:
> >
> > - FRR with BGP (no OSPF)
> > - Route /48 (or/56) down to the VR
> > - /64 per network
> > - SLACC for IP addressing
> >
> > I believe the next big question is then "on which level of ACS do we
> > manage AS numbers?".  I see two options:
> > 1) Private AS number on a per-zone basis
> > 2) Root Admin assigned AS number on a domain/account basis
> > 3) End-user driven AS number on a per network basis (for bring your
> > own AS and IP scenario)
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
> > Sent: 13 July 2021 15:08
> > To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; Alex Mattioli
> > <alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>
> > Cc: Wei Zhou <wei.z...@shapeblue.com>; Rohit Yadav <
> > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>; Gabriel Beims Bräscher
> > <gabr...@pcextreme.nl>
> > Subject: Re: IPV6 in Isolated/VPC networks
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/7/21 1:16 PM, Alex Mattioli wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > @Wei Zhou<mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com> @Rohit Yadav<mailto:
> > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> and myself are investigating how to enable
> > IPV6 support on Isolated and VPC networks and would like your input on
> it.
> > > At the moment we are looking at implementing FRR with BGP (and
> > > possibly
> > OSPF) on the ACS VR.
> > >
> > > We are looking for requirements, recommendations, ideas, rants,
> > etc...etc...
> > >
> >
> > Ok! Here we go.
> >
> > I think that you mean that the VR will actually route the IPv6 traffic
> > and for that you need to have a way of getting a subnet routed to the VR.
> >
> > BGP is probably you best bet here. Although OSPFv3 technically
> > supports this it is very badly implemented in Frr for example.
> >
> > Now FRR is a very good router and one of the fancy features it
> > supports is BGP Unnumered. This allows for auto configuration of BGP
> > over a L2 network when both sides are sending Router Advertisements.
> > This is very easy for flexible BGP configurations where both sides have
> dynamic IPs.
> >
> > What you want to do is that you get a /56, /48 or something which is
> > >/64 bits routed to the VR.
> >
> > Now you can sub-segment this into separate /64 subnets. You don't want
> > to go smaller then a /64 is that prevents you from using SLAAC for
> > IPv6 address configuration. This is how it works for Shared Networks
> > now in Basic and Advanced Zones.
> >
> > FRR can now also send out the Router Advertisements on the downlinks
> > sending out:
> >
> > - DNS servers
> > - DNS domain
> > - Prefix (/64) to be used
> >
> > There is no need for DHCPv6. You can calculate the IPv6 address the VM
> > will obtain by using the MAC and the prefix.
> >
> > So in short:
> >
> > - Using BGP you routed a /48 to the VR
> > - Now you split this into /64 subnets towards the isolated networks
> >
> > Wido
> >
> > > Alex Mattioli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Regards,
> Hean Seng
>


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Regards,
Hean Seng

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