Hi Jimmy,

I am Joffrey from the Backroll team.
That is correct, Backroll needs to have access to the storage, if for any 
reasons you do not want to have the local storage exposed to backroll then yes 
it will not be able to perform backups.

Regards,

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De : Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
Envoyé : mardi 11 juin 2024 11:20
À : users@cloudstack.apache.org <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack

Hi Khang,

Once tested let us know how it went, I was looking at this too but got 
misguided I think by the:

To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
the VMs storage and to a backup storage.

I only use local storage so that is not an option.

--
Jimmy

From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <phuckhag2...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 11 June 2024 at 04:18
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hello everyone,
Thank you for all your answers. I missed a few messages, so I couldn't
reply in time. Thank you, Giles Sirett. I am experimenting with BackROLL
and will review it as soon as possible.
Best Regards,

On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:04 PM Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
wrote:

> It says:
> To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
> the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
>
> In case you use local storage for your vm’s it’s pretty useless then?
>
> --
> Jimmy
>
> From: Giles Sirett <giles.sir...@shapeblue.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 29 May 2024 at 17:40
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> Hi Khang
> The dummy provider is just that - it is a dummy provider for testing the
> Backup and Recovery Framework - it doesn’t actually do any backups
>
> As Joao says - you can use Snaphots
>
> In terms of non commercial providers for the Backup & Recovery Framework,
> have a look at Backroll 
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FDIMSI-IS%2FBackROLL&data=05%7C02%7Cj.luangsaysana%40dimsi.fr%7C872fc7459c9a4b3221e308dc89f7c45b%7Cbab0ba86ddf44ac4b09fd48f7eb9d905%7C0%7C0%7C638536944412484235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k%2BSDIYDMNNlxuu%2BUEillMvWpnYzVYI7pSY3jzygRN0U%3D&reserved=0<https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: João Jandre Paraquetti <j...@scclouds.com.br>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 7:53 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
>
> Hello, Khang
>
> If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the
> 'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this can
> be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the
> `snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be backed
> up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus, if you lose
> your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have backups of
> your VM's volumes.
>
> Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the
> snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental snapshots
> when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot faster and save
> storage space.
>
> Best Regards,
> João Jandre.
>
> On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on
> > KVM in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they
> > are both paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to
> > Cloudstack mention that it is only for testing the API's
> > functionality. Can I consider dummy backup as a "native" backup
> > solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings, 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but
> > there is no information on how many backups it makes or for how long...
> >
> > Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer
> > documentation about the dummy backup?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
>

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