Hello Wei,

I was using PFsense I try with cisco and Jupiper too, and vPaloAlto. I am 
trying to mimic networks that I deployed before in Azure.

In this scenario you mentioned.
> Internet <-> public gateway <-> isolated network with source NAT(mandatory 
> the CSvirtualROUTER) <-> VNF (on the isolated network and another 
> shared/L2/isolated network) <-> VM on  user network.

I created a Shared Netowk with the Virtual router but does not get a Public 
address assigned, While If i Use the Isolated network the CloudStack VR gets 
the IP.

Thank you

Tata Y.



> On Jun 27, 2025, at 1:58 PM, Wei ZHOU <ustcweiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chi,
> 
> VNF means virtual network appliance, which can provide various services, 
> routing, load balancer, dhcp, dns, ids, ips, etc.
> it can be on the data path, or out of the data path. 
> 
> you can use pfsense VNF or similar, to replace VR. However, ACS VR has a 
> virtual nic on the Public network, which is not possible for VNF (which is a 
> special type of user vm instance).
> Therefore, to access the public internet or visa versa, user has to add a 
> network in front of VNF, so the topology looks like
> 
> Internet <-> public gateway <-> shared network with public IP <-> VNF (on the 
> shared network and another shared/L2/isolated network) <-> VM on  user 
> network, 
> OR
> Internet <-> public gateway <-> isolated network with source NAT <-> VNF (on 
> the isolated network and another shared/L2/isolated network) <-> VM on  user 
> network.
> 
> In my video, I used an isolated network. you can use a shared network 
> instead. 
> if you do not need public access, the isolated/shared network is not needed 
> then.
> 
> 
> -Wei
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 5:50 PM Chi vediamo <tatay...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:tatay...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Thank you Daan
>> 
>> Is there Any documentation about this. I read about and saw several videos, 
>> but none explains clearly each type versus VNF or vRouter.
>> I though based on the videos I can just replace the vRouter with an 
>> appliance for isolated networks or a VPC.
>> 
>> In a shared network I need the vROUTER or appliance to have a link to public 
>> interface while the others are behind the vRouter or appliance. I was 
>> unsuccessful on this one as there is no way to assign a separate port for 
>> Public network.
>> everything is in a single VXLAN for some reason. and the VXLAN has to be 
>> routed, which I do not want
>> 
>> 
>> I DID TRY SHARED OR L2 NETWORK: All Hypervisrors running KVM and upgraded to 
>> 4.20.1.
>> 
>> Here is the Scneario:
>> 
>> {Internet}
>>        |
>>        |
>>      Hypervisor1                                   Hypervisro2
>>       |_____________________________|
>>       |                                                          |
>> [vRouter or Appliance]                             |
>>       |                  |                                       |
>>       |                  |                                       |
>>   VXLAN1       VXLAN2                         VXLAN2
>>     |                         |                                  |
>>     |                         |                                  |
>>    VM1                  VM2                           VM3
>> 
>> 
>> Then for L2 should I be able to pick the VNF appliance instead of a vROUTER ?
>> 
>> 
>> Tata Y.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jun 27, 2025, at 11:16 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com 
>> > <mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Chi,
>> > I do not fully understand your use-case, but in the cases of isolated
>> > network and VPC you can put an appliance behind the router, not in
>> > front of it. (not sure, needs checking)
>> > In an L2 network you design the routing yourself and can make your VNF
>> > be the gateway
>> > In a shared network also you can design a lot, except that there will
>> > be layer 3 available. (I am not sure if VNFs are useful in this type
>> > of env)
>> > 
>> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 3:08 PM Chi vediamo <tatay...@gmail.com 
>> > <mailto:tatay...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> for Isolated or VPC networks,
>> >> 
>> >> Is my understanding I am not able to put a router in front in a shared 
>> >> network. Or it is possible ?
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Tata Y.
>> >> 
>> >>> On Jun 27, 2025, at 2:35 AM, Daan Hoogland <d...@apache.org 
>> >>> <mailto:d...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Tata,
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 3:05 AM Chi vediamo <tatay...@gmail.com 
>> >>> <mailto:tatay...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Hello Team,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Is there a Way to add a VNF Network Offering ? What are the steps to 
>> >>>> use a VNF without a vRouter in front of it.
>> >>> 
>> >>> In an l2 network ( or a shared network?)
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > Daan
>> 

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