I have to agree here (sadly) - having worked with Cocoon
for years now... but the new changes ito flow and forms
and templates have ramped up the learning time...
and if you want interactive webapps with database access
and updates as well ?!!  - add in Java, JavaBeans, persistence
layers, container managers, XDoclet etc etc etc ... see some
recent posts on all these fascinating topics...

So, if this is a quick once-off, better stick to PHP or ASP.

If you're in it for the long-run, then investing time now will
pay off later ;-)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I stopped to work with Cocoon 6 months ago when I was involved in a
project using EJB and Websphere.
>
>But today I have the opportunity to recommend using Cocoon for a new
development in my company.
>The goal of this small (but important) project is to create a small
web application using a database and a few web pages to search for the
data in the database, visualize them and update them.
>This project is rather simple but the important point for my boss is
the COST. The project should cost a little and it means that it
shouldn't take lots of weeks to develop it.
>
>I think that the fastest way could be a RAD tool like ASP.NET or
something like that.
>But personally I would prefer doing the job with Cocoon.
>
>So my question is:
>Is it possible to create a simple web application as described above
with Cocoon in a short time?
>And if yes, which way is the best?
>
>I thought to use the new CocoonForm. Is it realistic to solve my
problem with this tool? Is it stable today?
>
>  
>
Yes it is realistic and Cocoon is very stable.
Problem is: when comparing ASP.NET with Cocoon in development, I am 
afraid ASP.NET will win. There is no specific IDE for Cocoon. It takes
a 
lot of time for a developer to understand everything of Cocoon. I have

been developing in Cocoon for little over 6 months and my guess is that

I know 30% of Cocoon (also because I am only interested in certain
parts 
not all...).

APS.NET is easy for developers. It's visual basic with a different file

extension. ASP.NET is great don't get me wrong.
The level of abstraction between data and output can not be reached
with 
ASP.NET in comparison to Cocoon.

The real question is: do you want to invest your money (time, books & 
knowledge)  in Cocoon to create websites to achieve that data <->
output 
abstraction?

Just my point-of-view...

>Thanks
>Regards
>Sylvain
>
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