On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 16:48, Derek Hohls wrote:
> "The cocoon site has something similar"?
> 
> Oh, please point me to it.

Simply use the print or print preview function of your browser: you
should see the left menu is removed, which usually is the biggest
annoyance when printing. This is done using print css instructions.

> 
> Thanks
> Derek
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/07/13 04:42:20 PM >>>
> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 11:24, Derek Hohls wrote:
> > No, I wasn't aware of navigation issues... 
> > can  you explain this one further?
> 
> I meant it as a positive thing: when printing, the left navigation
> area
> isn't printed, so the pages are quite printable.
> 
> > 
> > For example, when I am at this site:
> >
> http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/hands_on_tutorial/index.html
> 
> > 
> > and press the print button on my browser
> > (Opera or IE6), I get a neat print-only version
> > popping out (using a different stylesheet and
> > quite different look-and-feel from the :cool: 
> > version I see on my web browser).
> 
> yep, the cocoon site has something similar, though less worked out.
> 
> > 
> > I cannot see any impact on my navigation
> > in this scenario; I suppose one could also
> > pop-up a new window so you could "preview" 
> > the print-ready version... but most browers
> > also support creating a "print preview" which
> > works just as well, IMO.  Also no navigation
> > issues in this approach.
> > 
> > Derek
> >  
> > 
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/07/13 10:10:29 AM >>>
> > On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 08:42, Derek Hohls wrote:
> > > I assume that a number of the sites that have
> > > a Cocoon "look and feel" are created the same
> > > way (- Forrest?).  It has always "bugged" me 
> > > that, when visiting these sites, I cannot just click 
> > > on the print button on my browser and create a 
> > > well-laid out page directly on my printer.
> > 
> > Discouraging people from printing seems like a good thing to me ;-)
> > 
> > Anyway, you know that the navigation is automatically dropped when
> > printing?
> > 
> > > 
> > > I know there is a mechanism to create "printable
> > > versions" of pages, using PDF.  Despite the fact 
> > > that PDF is fairly widely used, not everyone buys 
> > > in to it, and it is not always the most appropriate.
> > > I do feel that Cocoon, whose major use has been 
> > > as a web-publishing framework, should allow for 
> > > better printing facilities. In practice, its not hard to 
> > > achieve, if we ditch the clunky use of tables for the 
> > > layout and move to a stylesheet-based approach.
> > > 
> > > I was wondering if there were any plans to do
> > > this in the near future?
> > > 
> > > (yes, I know this is open-source and stuff only
> > > happens if someone volunteers... would this be
> > > an appropriate area that needs some time invested?)

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