Ralph Yup. I am not envious of any other open source package ito community support and the intrinsic capability of the system but I if had the odd, spare $10k or even $100k lying around the first thing I would do is offer to hire some people (tech expert + writer/editor) to redo all the documents; including the main website and wiki. Plus produce a high quality "getting going" guide (such as the one that projects like Hibernate has.)
I can dream, right? Derek PS Yes, in theory, the above could be done by the community, but in practice some old-fashioned, top-down, focussed effort is actually what it takes to get something like this together. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/11/10 08:54:17 AM >>> Derek Hohls wrote: >I guess my 2c is that I do think Cocoon remains obscure. There >seem to be lots of people doing lots of good things with it, but >its never promoted [read - not discussed, written about, in forums >outside of Cocoon groups, where others could sit up and take >notice]. It is a chicken-and-egg situation... but these things can >be changed. > My $.02. My experience with everyone who is now using Cocoon in our organization has gone something like this: 1. I already know Struts (and JSPs)... 2. It's too complicated. 3. The documentation is bad. The published books are old and don't cover the current release. 4. Wow. It does that?! 5. This is really ccol! Obviously, getting past 1, 2 and 3 are the hard part, with 1 and 2 being the worst. The irony is that the solution, IMO, is number 3. Cocoon needs better documentation, more published articles, and better documentation. Ralph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]