Bastian

Thanks for the overview and your time.

I hadn't realised that Cocoon could also generate the starting XML for me too. 
I am guessing that Cocoon wil help take care of relevant caching scenarios 
for the resulting documents too? Hmm, lots of interesting reading ahead.

Jon

On Tuesday 15 February 2005 12:27, Bowe, Bastian wrote:
> I think cocoon is a good solution for your scenario. Cocoon offers you a
> pipeline concept (and optionally flow as a control layer, CForms...) You
> can use cocoon to extract the data from the database build "Plain XML" (in
> a pipeline). You can then create another pipeline to use the "Plain XML"
> pipeline as an input for another pipeline which generates XHTML/HTML and
> for another one which generates WML. The conversion from XML to (X)HTML or
> WML has to be done in the pipeline with cocoon xsl transformer using XSL
> Stylesheets.
>
> Hope that gives you some idea how cocoon can help you. I don't think cocoon
> is overkill because you don't have to use every aspect of cocoon. You just
> have to understand XML/XSL and cocoons pipeline/sitemap concept.
>
> The advantage over PHP/JSP or most other technologies is that you can
> easyly add other output formats. Cocoon is very modular and you can modify
> most aspects. It is even quiet simple to build a customized cocoon that
> just includes the parts (blocks) of cocoon you need (in your case the
> pipeline concept) and exclude most of the others.
>
> Regards
> Bastian
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:18 PM
> > To: Cocoon Users
> > Subject: New user + concepts
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > First off all, apologies for this email being a little long;
> > thanks to anyone
> > who has the time to read it.
> >
> > I am in the process of producing data on mobile phone
> > handsets. I am hoping
> > that the information that I will repesent will eventually be
> > good enough to
> > be used as a general resource for companies and end users in
> > the mobile phone
> > content arena.
> >
> > I have got as far as building a relational database and have
> > entered a lot of
> > my data. I have now worked a first draft of an XML document that will
> > describe the capabailities of a mobile handset.
> >
> > I want the XML to be used for a number of different purposes.
> >
> > 1. Plain XML, useful for developers who wish to inform their
> > own databases 2. XHTML / HTML to display information on
> > handsets, suitable for end-user
> > Websites.
> > 3. XHTML / HTML for display on a administration Intranet.
> > 4. XHTML / WML for WAP browsers.
> >
> > I guess this is where Cocoon could come in? I have never used
> > any type of
> > application server before and could do with some advice to
> > see if what I am
> > trying to achieve would benefit from Cocoon.  To begin with,
> > I expect I will
> > have data on around 500 handsets. Perhaps Cocoon is overkill
> > for the scale
> > that I am working at? I am not entirely sure on what
> > advantages Cocoon can
> > bring me over using PHP / Perl / JSP to output database
> > queries into a
> > variety of formats.
> >
> > Can anyone offer any words of wisdom to help in my decision making?
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Jon
> >
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