3) I agree, XSP was very flexible and I do miss it in 2.2/3.x Cocoon. I wonder what kind of limits did you find in XSP ? Its pretty straightforward and very general in nature - you can put any kind of Java and mix&match with XML. Its auto-compiled into Java classes so you don't have to "redeploy" anything, while making quick change to the system. It saves us a hell lot of time. Yet, you do have a full insight into Java class source that was auto-generated from .xsp file. Cocoon assists you with exact line number of problematic code while debugging. You also have full cache support of XSP files and thus blazingly fast responses! I find only advantages and no limits actually, notwithstanding the model/view/controller "code blending", but its a kind of convention that you follow.
What I dislike in the recent versions of Cocoon is its strict adherence to Spring framework and/or ORM/Hibernate. If you only use XML as native data format and only need native SQL transactions, why should you need any ORM ? ORM creates additional overhead in the system, another layer of "mapping" between your business logic and DB, another "impedance mismatch". If you really care about the performance, you need to consider very carefully your persistence logic. IMHO, we ought to have the option to use only those parts of API that we actually need. Greetings, Greg 2012/11/14 Mika M Lehtonen <m...@digikartta.net> > Hi, > I am using ye old modular database actions which in my opinion is > extremely handy "tool". > > I was just wondering, how would I get some sort of a callback from e.g. > insert/update action in order to tell the user that his/her data is saved? > > cheers, > - mika - > > P.S. My two cents for the discussion, "Is Cocoon dead?". I have build > quite a large application with C2.1. I wanted to see, feel what it is like > to use database actions, XSP, CForms and so on. This is what I observed. > 1) First of all. Developing an app without some sort of an IDE is pain in > the ass. Debugging is almost impossible. No help with your "code". No > nothing. > 2) Modular database actions is something like I said, I like. > 3) XSP is super to some stage. I really like it, if taking its > restrictions into account. Say anything, I still like it. > 4) CForms is a piece of shit hide behind nice curtains. Yeah, I know this > is harsh to say. Still, it is something I banged my head against the wall > all the time. > 5) Jxtemplate and its relatives is hieroglyphic jargon. I wouldn't > recommended them to anyone. > 6) Flowscript. I never realized why. > > But the big question. How to do this all with C3. It's another kind of > framework? Don't even try to do this? > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > users-unsubscribe@cocoon.**apache.org<users-unsubscr...@cocoon.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@cocoon.apache.org > >
