Hello all,

        We are attempting to generate a Java class for this XML payload by 
extending XMLInfosetOutputter using XMLTextInfosetOUtputter
        As a guide.  
        We're having trouble coming up with a Java equivalent for the 
StartSimple() method code:
                        if 
(simple.erd.optPrimType.get.isInstanceOf[NodeInfo.String.Kind]) {

        We've tried the following with no luck:
                if (simple.erd().optPrimType().get() instanceof 
NodeInfo.String().Kind) {
        and
                       if 
(simple.erd().optPrimType().get().isInstanceOf(NodeInfo.String().???)) {

        Any input or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time,
  Mark T 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lawrence <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 4:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXT :Re: Re: Extending JAPI for processing binary input with an XML 
Payload

 > Contributing to Daffodil is likely not an option for my company.

That's sad to hear, and I hope you can try to persuade your company to change 
this position. Opensource works best with many contributors from many different 
organizations. And if your company depends on Daffodil, contributing back to it 
can help ensure its success and continued growth.

 > Based on my limited understanding, this seems to suggest that I would have 
 > to add another infoset type to make use of the new class

If you're using the CLI, this is correct. Infoset inputters and outputters must 
currently be hardcoded in. If you're using the API to invoke Daffodil this 
isn't a problem, but if you're using the CLI then you must modify the CLI to 
support your new classes. This hasn't been an issue so far since anytime a new 
one is needed we just added it to Daffodil.

Part of the reason for this is that creating InfosetInputters/Outputters and 
getting the result is very specific to the infoset representation. 
It's probably possible that the API could be made more generic, and then we 
could use a ServiceLoader or something to support pluggable infoset 
inputters/outputters, but that hasn't be a priority so far.

On 4/20/22 10:08 PM, Thompson, Mark M [US] (DS) wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
>       I have been looking into your suggestions and researching the existing 
> code and here
>       Is where I'm at:
>       - Contributing to Daffodil is likely not an option for my company.
>       - I've been looking into XMLTextInfosetInputter and 
> ScalaXMLInfosetOutputter for insight.
>          What I don't understand (Java and Scala newby) is, having extended 
> InfosetOutputter with a new class,
>          the Daffodil parse operation magically has access to this new class. 
> I see, in main.scala, where
>          XMLTextInfosetOutputter and ScalaXMLInfosetOutputter are 
> instantiated based on command line
>          Input for infoset type. Based on my limited understanding, this 
> seems to suggest that I would have
>          To add another infoset type to make use of the new class.
> 
>        Can someone clear up my misunderstanding or point to some info that 
> will cause the scales to fall
>       From my eyes?
> 
> Thank you for your time,
>     Mark T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Lawrence <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 8, 2022 6:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: EXT :Re: Extending JAPI for processing binary input with an 
> XML Payload
> 
> I've put a decent amount of thought into this  issue, I'll add some 
> additional info that might help out...
> 
>   > for example, the startSimple() method. It would be helpful to have an 
> idea what a given method does normally when there is no class extension.
> 
> The InfosetOutputter class is an abstract class with no default 
> implementations, so an implementation of all functions, including 
> startSimple, is required--InfosetInputters don't do anything by default.
> The InfosetOutputters that are bundled with Daffodil implement all of these 
> functions to create the kind of infoset that is output (e.g. XML text, Scala 
> Nodes, JSON). If you want to take a look at how our bundled implementations 
> handle their logic, they are all in this folder:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/daffodil/tree/main/daffodil-runtime1/src/mai
> n/scala/org/apache/daffodil/infoset
> 
> If you plan to keep your InfosetOutputter outside of the Daffodil codebase, 
> you'll need to implement all of the functions/logic yourself.
> Our current implementions are mostly private, so extending and overriding 
> them to do you you want is likely not possible.
> 
> A good place to start would be to pick one that that's close to what you want 
> and modify the various functions as described in the example implementation 
> in the runtime properties proposal:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DAFFODIL/Proposal%3A+Runti
> me+Properties
> 
> Alternatively, it might be easier to just add the support to our existing 
> bundled InfosetOutputters to support this capability, and contribute that 
> work to Daffodil. Not only will this probably be easier since you can reuse 
> alot of the existing logic, but our ability to provide support greatly 
> increases when it's related to things being added to Daffodil. This feature 
> is a request we've seen multiple times--it would be a very welcome addition 
> and we'd be happy help get it added to Daffodil.
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/8/22 8:42 AM, Mike Beckerle wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>> There definitely are javadoc jars, and the javadoc is also online 
>> here (for release 3.3.0) 
>> https://daffodil.apache.org/docs/latest/javadoc/
>> <https://daffodil.apache.org/docs/latest/javadoc/>
>>
>> The source and javadoc jars are normally pulled down using maven or 
>> sbt. But you can find them directly on maven central also.
>>
>> For example for the daffodil-runtime1 jar, all the jars, compiled 
>> binary, sources, and the javadoc jar is at
>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/daffodil/daffodil-runtime1_
>> 2
>> .12/3.3.0/
>> <https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/daffodil/daffodil-runtime1
>> _
>> 2.12/3.3.0/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM Thompson, Mark M [US] (DS) 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>       Greetings to All,____
>>
>>       __ __
>>
>>                      Caveat: I am new to Daffodil and DFDL. I’m familiar 
>> with the
>>       basic functionality and have successfully written____
>>
>>                                     DFDL schemas to handle text and binary 
>> inputs
>>       to the parse/unparse cycle (separate assignments). ____
>>
>>       __ __
>>
>>       I am working on a task that requires the processing of binary files
>>       containing an XML payload. The goal is to be____
>>
>>                      able to validate the raw (un-escapified) XML against an 
>> XML
>>       schema during the parsing phase. I have been researching____
>>
>>                      the Daffodil JAPI InfosetOutputter family of classes as 
>> a
>>       first step. I’ve also read Steve Lawrence’s write-up on the 
>> ____
>>
>>                      RuntimePropertiies proposal. What I have yet to grasp 
>> or find
>>       is what InfosetOutputter functionality is to be extended .____
>>
>>                      I’ve searched high and low but I have yet to find any
>>       detailed information on what basic functionality is provided 
>> by,____
>>
>>       for example, the startSimple() method. It would be helpful to have an 
>> idea
>>       what a given method does normally when____
>>
>>       there is no class extension.____
>>
>>       __ __
>>
>>       Can anyone recommend a place to start or a source of info on the
>>       InfosetOutputter family of classes?____
>>
>>       __ __
>>
>>       I am working in NetBeans and every class I find seems to 
>> indicate that:____
>>
>>       Javadoc not found. Either Javadoc documentation for this item does not 
>> exist
>>       or ____
>>
>>                               you have not added specified Javadoc in the 
>> Java
>>       Platform Manager or the Library ____
>>
>>                               Manager.____
>>
>>       __ __
>>
>>                      Are there Javadoc(s) available corresponding to the 
>> Daffodil
>>       JAPI classes?____
>>
>>       __ __
>>
>>                      It feels like I’m missing some basic configuration setup
>>       settings or files. Any guidance or suggestions will____
>>
>>                      be greatly appreciated.____
>>
>>       __ __
>>
>>       Thank you for your time,____
>>
>>          Mark M. Thompson____
>>
>>          Northrop Grumman Defense Systems____
>>
>>          Software Engineer____
>>
>>          (818) 712-7439____
>>
>>       __ __
>>

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