Do you mean all components must be built inside bazel?
>> Sort of. We have a project that is built on bazel. Now, we need to use the 
>> core functions of DPDK to replace the network primitives in our project, so 
>> that we can improve the performance of our project.

You are not able to call meson/ninja commands from bazel?
>> I have found any examples using meson inside bazel. According to my 
>> understanding, Bazel and meson are two parallel building systems and I 
>> haven't seen anyone could use them together.

How do you do with other libraries? Does bazel usually reimplement what is 
packaged with autotools?
>> That is the reason why https://github.com/bazelment exists. If some 
>> libraries are popular and do not support bazel, then these guys will help 
>> generate some modified version of these libraries, so that developers can 
>> integrate the library into bazel. It is not completely reimplementation, but 
>> it indeed needs much extraction to adapt the previous library so that it can 
>> be used in bazel.
Unfortunately, these guys stop supporting DPDK atop bazel now.


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From: Thomas Monjalon <tho...@monjalon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 4:06 PM
To: Jinkun Geng <gjk1...@stanford.edu>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>; c...@dpdk.org 
<c...@dpdk.org>; users@dpdk.org <users@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-ci] [dpdk-users] Integration of DPDK into Bazel

11/03/2021 00:42, Jinkun Geng:
> For any project using bazel, if we want to use DPDK, then we need to compile 
> DPDK stuff into bazel by ourselves. It is not a trivial thing and the 
> bazelment (https://github.com/bazelment/dpdk) guys have spent much effort 
> extracting the core files in DPDK and write the BUILD files for DPDK. But now 
> it seems they have stopped maintaining that repo since DPDK 16.04. Even in 
> that version, it has some runtime failure when we use DPDK in our bazel 
> project.

Sorry I don't know bazel.
Do you mean all components must be built inside bazel?
You are not able to call meson/ninja commands from bazel?
How do you do with other libraries?
Does bazel usually reimplement what is packaged with autotools?


> ________________________________
From: Thomas Monjalon <tho...@monjalon.net>
> 09/03/2021 05:11, Jinkun Geng:
> > Too bad. :<
>
> Why is it too bad?
> How the choice of an internal build system
> can affect other projects?
>
>
> From: Stephen Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>
> > On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 01:32:16 +0000
> > Jinkun Geng <gjk1...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, all.
> > > Since bazel building system is becoming more and more popular, sometimes 
> > > we need to integrate DPDK library into a bazel project. However, it seems 
> > > there is no much support for bazel from DPDK community.
>
> Why the DPDK community would support building with Bazel?
> What is the benefit?
> Bazel projects cannot just link with DPDK using pkg-config?
>
>
> > > The only support at https://github.com/bazelment/dpdk has been outdated. 
> > > Based on our experience, it can only compile successfully with dpdk-16.04 
> > > (i.e. the bazel-16.04 branch). Now DPDK has developed to DPDK 21.02, but 
> > > the bazel support fails to catch up.
> > >
> > > It would be great if the experts in DPDK community can provide some 
> > > portable BUILD files to facilitate the integration of the newest DPDK 
> > > into bazel project (just like bazelment). After all, writing the bazel 
> > > files can be really challenging, especially if we do not have a very deep 
> > > understanding of the whole DPDK codes.
> > >
> > > Jinkun
> >
> > DPDK is on meson now. The core team is unlikely to change build systems 
> > again.
>
> DPDK supports library standards for compiling, installing and linking.
> What else is needed?





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