Thanks for the info.
Do you think it should be written in the vmxnet3 page of the DPDK documentation?
If yes, would you like to initiate a patch for review?


11/08/2023 10:43, Igor de Paula:
> Hi again,
> I got this resolved with VMWARE support so I thought to share it here.
> What I originally wanted was to use IOVA-VA on an AMD host. Which didn't
> work. I have learned that the ESXI version that supports
> virtual IOMMU in AMD hosts (which is a prerequisite to IOVA-VA) is ESXI 7.0
> U1. After updating it worked. On Intel hosts ESXI 6.7 supports it already
> as far as I know.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 6:19 PM Varghese, Vipin <vipin.vargh...@amd.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > [AMD Official Use Only - General]
> >
> > Like I said earlier, trying with the Intel host I have on VMWARE,
> > specifically  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697A v4 @ 2.60GHz
> > With IOMMU enabled, VMXNET3 works with VA as well as PA.
> >
> > [VV] since ` enable_unsafe_iommu: not enabled` on Intel platform, could
> > it be possible the specific version EXSI hypervisor supports the HW IOMMU
> > specific to the platform. My suspicion will be in case on AMD platform
> >  changes for required to enable HW iommu might not be available to specific
> > EXSI (hypervior OS) used.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not an expert on virtio_user PMD, but I can check if it will work
> > with PA with deferred setting for vmx_net3 PMD are ok?
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Igor de Paula <igord...@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2023 8:42 PM
> > *To:* Varghese, Vipin <vipin.vargh...@amd.com>
> > *Cc:* Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yi...@amd.com>; Jochen Behrens <
> > jbehr...@vmware.com>; Thomas Monjalon <tho...@monjalon.net>;
> > users@dpdk.org; Gupta, Nipun <nipun.gu...@amd.com>; Agarwal, Nikhil <
> > nikhil.agar...@amd.com>; Ronak Doshi <dos...@vmware.com>; Immanni, Venkat
> > <venkat.imma...@amd.com>; Chenbo Xia <chenbo....@intel.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: help
> >
> >
> >
> > *Caution:* This message originated from an External Source. Use proper
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> >
> >
> >
> > Well,
> > Like I said earlier, trying with the Intel host I have on VMWARE,
> > specifically  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697A v4 @ 2.60GHz
> > With IOMMU enabled, VMXNET3 works with VA as well as PA.
> > Meaning, PA works regardless if IOMMU is enabled or not. From my
> > experience anyway.
> > That's why I thought that:
> > virtio_user needs VA to work.
> > For some reason VMXNET3 does not work with VA (only on AMD host).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 4:04 PM Varghese, Vipin <vipin.vargh...@amd.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > [AMD Official Use Only - General]
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Igor,
> >
> >
> >
> > As suspected the vmx_net3 works with
> >
> >
> >
> >    1. Iommu: disabled
> >    2. enable_unsafe_iommu: enabled
> >    3. dpdk eal iova mode: PA
> >
> >
> >
> > as pointed by you in logs, the virtio_user fails as it expects VA too.
> >
> >
> >
> > Will check and get back.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Igor de Paula <igord...@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2023 8:16 PM
> > *To:* Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yi...@amd.com>
> > *Cc:* Jochen Behrens <jbehr...@vmware.com>; Thomas Monjalon <
> > tho...@monjalon.net>; users@dpdk.org; Gupta, Nipun <nipun.gu...@amd.com>;
> > Agarwal, Nikhil <nikhil.agar...@amd.com>; Ronak Doshi <dos...@vmware.com>;
> > Immanni, Venkat <venkat.imma...@amd.com>; Varghese, Vipin <
> > vipin.vargh...@amd.com>; Chenbo Xia <chenbo....@intel.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: help
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Attaching the logs of EAL when trying to run a configuration with
> > virtio_user port when IOMMU is
> > disabled and enable_unsafe_iommu is enabled. As you can see it forces IOVA
> > as PA but the viritui_user needs IOVA as VA.
> > I am also attaching the output of dmesg. I am not sure which kernel logs
> > you wanted... if there is anything else please let me know..
> > Regarding the ESXI logs, they are HUGE so I will send to you on a separate
> > email.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 1:14 PM Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/21/2023 12:39 PM, Igor de Paula wrote:
> > > I am trying to use virtio_user for an interface with the
> > > kernel:
> > https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/howto/virtio_user_as_exception_path.html <
> > https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/howto/virtio_user_as_exception_path.html>
> > > I think this requires IOVA as va.
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure if virtio-user has IOVA as VA requirement, cc'ed Chenbo,
> > he may know better.
> >
> > Meanwhile can you give a try to 'enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode' and
> > '--iova-mode=pa'?
> >
> >
> > > It does work with Intel host and IOMMU
> > > enabled. Part of the negotiation when setting it up is getting the IOMMU
> > > number so I thought it has to have IOMMU.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, issue looks like related to the IOMMU, and it may be either related
> > to HW support, or ESXi iommu driver support, we will check using below
> > information you provided.
> >
> > > I tried disabling IOMMU and enabling enable_unsafe_noiommu flag but
> > > again, that didn't work.
> > > ESXI version - VMware ESXi, 7.0.0, 16324942
> > > AMD:  AMD EPYC 7452 32-Core Processo
> > >
> > > On an Intel host which worked: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697A v4 @ 2.60GHz
> > > Regarding the logs I will try and attach it soon.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for info, waiting for logs.
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:21 PM Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com
> > > <mailto:ferruh.yi...@amd.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi Igor,
> > >
> > >     VM doesn't have IOMMU, and vmxnet3 requires PA mode, for this can you
> > >     please try with:
> > >     - enable 'enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode' flag
> > >     - Force PA mode via '--iova-mode=pa' eal parameter
> > >
> > >
> > >     Also to be able to figure out AMD IOMMU support level, can you please
> > >     provide:
> > >     - AMD part number
> > >     - ESXi/hypervisor version
> > >     - ESXi & VM kernel logs
> > >
> > >
> > >     Thanks,
> > >     Ferruh
> > >
> > >     On 7/20/2023 5:21 PM, Jochen Behrens wrote:
> > >     > +Ronak from the ESX team
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > In our usage, we do set amd_iommu=off in the boot command line from
> > >     > grub. (Or intel_iommu=off for Intel processors.)
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >                 Jochen
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > *From: *Thomas Monjalon <tho...@monjalon.net
> > >     <mailto:tho...@monjalon.net>>
> > >     > *Date: *Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 6:00 AM
> > >     > *To: *Igor de Paula <igord...@gmail.com <mailto:igord...@gmail.com
> > >>
> > >     > *Cc: *users@dpdk.org <mailto:users@dpdk.org> <users@dpdk.org
> > >     <mailto:users@dpdk.org>>, Jochen Behrens
> > >     > <jbehr...@vmware.com <mailto:jbehr...@vmware.com>>, Nipun Gupta
> > >     <nipun.gu...@amd.com <mailto:nipun.gu...@amd.com>>, Nikhil Agarwal
> > >     > <nikhil.agar...@amd.com <mailto:nikhil.agar...@amd.com>>, Ferruh
> > >     Yigit <ferruh.yi...@amd.com <mailto:ferruh.yi...@amd.com>>
> > >     > *Subject: *Re: help
> > >     >
> > >     > !! External Email
> > >     >
> > >     > +Cc some AMD maintainers, they can have an idea about IOMMU
> > settings.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > 20/07/2023 14:44, Igor de Paula:
> > >     >> I have enabled it in the host and in the BIOS for AMD...
> > >     >> In the Bios I changed to amd_iommu=on and in the host it's the
> > >     same for
> > >     >> either.
> > >     >>
> > >     >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:31 PM Thomas Monjalon
> > >     <tho...@monjalon.net <mailto:tho...@monjalon.net>> wrote:
> > >     >>
> > >     >> > 20/07/2023 11:35, Igor de Paula:
> > >     >> > > The weird thing is that it only happens when I am using a
> > >     host with an
> > >     >> > AMD
> > >     >> > > processor. It doesn't happen when I use a host with an Intel
> > >     processor.
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> > So it's probably a matter of BIOS settings for the IOMMU?
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:32 AM Thomas Monjalon
> > >     <tho...@monjalon.net <mailto:tho...@monjalon.net>>
> > >     >> > > wrote:
> > >     >> > >
> > >     >> > > > +Cc the vmxnet3 maintainer.
> > >     >> > > >
> > >     >> > > > Please Jochen, do you have an idea what's wrong below?
> > >     >> > > >
> > >     >> > > >
> > >     >> > > > 20/07/2023 11:25, Igor de Paula:
> > >     >> > > > > This is because it can't negotiate the IOMMU type with
> > >     any port.
> > >     >> > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 5:08 AM Thomas Monjalon
> > >     <tho...@monjalon.net <mailto:tho...@monjalon.net>
> > >     >> > >
> > >     >> > > > wrote:
> > >     >> > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > Hello,
> > >     >> > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > The first error is "Cause: Error: number of ports must
> > >     be even"
> > >     >> > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > 03/05/2023 18:13, Igor de Paula:
> > >     >> > > > > > > I am running a VM inside a VMWARE server (vSphere).
> > >     >> > > > > > > My goal it to set up DPDK with two HW ports, and set
> > up a
> > >     >> > > > virtio_user to
> > >     >> > > > > > > interact with the kernel stack.
> > >     >> > > > > > > In another app I have it working but instead of
> > >     virtio_user I am
> > >     >> > > > running
> > >     >> > > > > > > KNI, it works in IOVA-PA mode.
> > >     >> > > > > > > I am looking to replace the KNI.
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > When I try to set up virtio_user port as in the doc:
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > >
> > >     >> > > >
> > >     >> >
> > >
> > https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/howto/virtio_user_as_exception_path.html#virtio-user-as-exception-path
> > <
> > https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/howto/virtio_user_as_exception_path.html#virtio-user-as-exception-path>
> > <
> > https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/howto/virtio_user_as_exception_path.html#virtio-user-as-exception-path
> > <
> > https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/howto/virtio_user_as_exception_path.html#virtio-user-as-exception-path
> > >>
> > >     >> > > > > > > I get a error it can't run in PA mode.
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > When I try to run as VA mode from a parameter, I get
> > the
> > >     >> > following
> > >     >> > > > > > errors:
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: lib.eal log level changed from info to debug
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Detected lcore 0 as core 0 on socket 0
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Detected lcore 1 as core 0 on socket 0
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Support maximum 128 logical core(s) by
> > >     configuration.
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Detected 2 lcore(s)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Detected 1 NUMA nodes
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Checking presence of .so 'librte_eal.so.21.3'
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Checking presence of .so 'librte_eal.so.21'
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Checking presence of .so 'librte_eal.so'
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Detected static linkage of DPDK
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Ask a virtual area of 0x7000 bytes
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Virtual area found at 0x100000000 (size = 0x7000)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Multi-process socket /var/run/dpdk/rte/mp_socket
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: DPAA Bus not present. Skipping.
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: VFIO PCI modules not loaded
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Selected IOVA mode 'VA'
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Probing VFIO support...
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: IOMMU type 1 (Type 1) is supported
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: IOMMU type 7 (sPAPR) is not supported
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: IOMMU type 8 (No-IOMMU) is supported
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: VFIO support initialized
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Ask a virtual area of 0x5b000 bytes
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Virtual area found at 0x100007000 (size =
> > 0x5b000)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Setting up physically contiguous memory...
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Setting maximum number of open files to 1048576
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Detected memory type: socket_id:0
> > >     hugepage_sz:1073741824
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Creating 2 segment lists: n_segs:128 socket_id:0
> > >     >> > > > > > hugepage_sz:1073741824
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Ask a virtual area of 0x2000 bytes
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Virtual area found at 0x100062000 (size = 0x2000)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Memseg list allocated at socket 0, page size
> > >     0x100000kB
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Ask a virtual area of 0x2000000000 bytes
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Virtual area found at 0x140000000 (size =
> > >     0x2000000000)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: VA reserved for memseg list at 0x140000000, size
> > >     2000000000
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Ask a virtual area of 0x2000 bytes
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Virtual area found at 0x2140000000 (size =
> > 0x2000)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Memseg list allocated at socket 0, page size
> > >     0x100000kB
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Ask a virtual area of 0x2000000000 bytes
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Virtual area found at 0x2180000000 (size =
> > >     0x2000000000)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: VA reserved for memseg list at 0x2180000000,
> > >     size 2000000000
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: TSC frequency is ~2350000 KHz
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Main lcore 0 is ready
> > (tid=7f8ad790ec00;cpuset=[0])
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: lcore 1 is ready (tid=7f8ad6907400;cpuset=[1])
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Trying to obtain current memory policy.
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Setting policy MPOL_PREFERRED for socket 0
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Restoring previous memory policy: 0
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: request: mp_malloc_sync
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Heap on socket 0 was expanded by 1024MB
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: PCI device 0000:0b:00.0 on NUMA socket -1
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL:   probe driver: 15ad:7b0 net_vmxnet3
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL:   Expecting 'PA' IOVA mode but current mode is
> > >     'VA', not
> > >     >> > > > > > initializing
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Requested device 0000:0b:00.0 cannot be used
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: PCI device 0000:13:00.0 on NUMA socket -1
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL:   probe driver: 15ad:7b0 net_vmxnet3
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL:   Expecting 'PA' IOVA mode but current mode is
> > >     'VA', not
> > >     >> > > > > > initializing
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Requested device 0000:13:00.0 cannot be used
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Bus (pci) probe failed.
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: lib.telemetry log level changed from disabled to
> > >     warning
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Error - exiting with code: 1
> > >     >> > > > > > >   Cause: Error: number of ports must be even
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: request: mp_malloc_sync
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Heap on socket 0 was shrunk by 1024MB
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > For some reason the HW ports won't setup. From what I
> > >     understand
> > >     >> > > > > > > net_vmxnet3 should work with VA mode.
> > >     >> > > > > > > I enabled I/OMUU for the VM.
> > >     >> > > > > > > The weird thing even when enabled, I still have the
> > >     >> > > > > > > enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode flag on.
> > >     >> > > > > > > And because it's on the this:
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > dev_iova_mode = pci_device_iova_mode(dr, dev);
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > return PA mode, and it fails.
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > When I disable it by modifying
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     /sys/module/vfio/parameters/enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode, I get
> > >     >> > another
> > >     >> > > > > > error.
> > >     >> > > > > > > The error is that it doesn't find a suitable IOMMU
> > type:
> > >     >> > > > > > > Just putting the relevant message:
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Heap on socket 0 was expanded by 1024MB
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: PCI device 0000:0b:00.0 on NUMA socket -1
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL:   probe driver: 15ad:7b0 net_vmxnet3
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Set IOMMU type 1 (Type 1) failed, error 19 (No
> > >     such device)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Set IOMMU type 7 (sPAPR) failed, error 19 (No
> > >     such device)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Set IOMMU type 8 (No-IOMMU) failed, error 19 (No
> > >     such
> > >     >> > device)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: 0000:0b:00.0 failed to select IOMMU type
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Requested device 0000:0b:00.0 cannot be used
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: PCI device 0000:13:00.0 on NUMA socket -1
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL:   probe driver: 15ad:7b0 net_vmxnet3
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Set IOMMU type 1 (Type 1) failed, error 19 (No
> > >     such device)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Set IOMMU type 7 (sPAPR) failed, error 19 (No
> > >     such device)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Set IOMMU type 8 (No-IOMMU) failed, error 19 (No
> > >     such
> > >     >> > device)
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: 0000:13:00.0 failed to select IOMMU type
> > >     >> > > > > > > EAL: Requested device 0000:13:00.0 cannot be used
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > I can see where it fails:
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > const struct vfio_iommu_type *
> > >     >> > > > > > > vfio_set_iommu_type(int vfio_container_fd)
> > >     >> > > > > > > {
> > >     >> > > > > > > unsigned idx;
> > >     >> > > > > > > for (idx = 0; idx < RTE_DIM(iommu_types); idx++) {
> > >     >> > > > > > > const struct vfio_iommu_type *t = &iommu_types[idx];
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > int ret = ioctl(vfio_container_fd, VFIO_SET_IOMMU,
> > >     >> > > > > > > t->type_id);
> > >     >> > > > > > > if (!ret) {
> > >     >> > > > > > > RTE_LOG(INFO, EAL, "Using IOMMU type %d (%s)\n",
> > >     >> > > > > > > t->type_id, t->name);
> > >     >> > > > > > > return t;
> > >     >> > > > > > > }
> > >     >> > > > > > > /* not an error, there may be more supported IOMMU
> > >     types */
> > >     >> > > > > > > RTE_LOG(DEBUG, EAL, "Set IOMMU type %d (%s) failed,
> > >     error "
> > >     >> > > > > > > "%i (%s)\n", t->type_id, t->name, errno,
> > >     >> > > > > > > strerror(errno));
> > >     >> > > > > > > }
> > >     >> > > > > > > /* if we didn't find a suitable IOMMU type, fail */
> > >     >> > > > > > > return NULL;
> > >     >> > > > > > > }
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > The ioctl returns -1.
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > >
> > >     >> > > > > > > I tried many things.
> > >     >> > > > > > > Enabling/disabling IOMMU.
> > >     >> > > > > > > Modifying the enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode flag.
> > >     >> > > > > > > Running in PA mode.
> > >     >> > > > > > > Any help will be much appreciated.
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> >
> > >     >> >
> > >     >>
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
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