Hello all,

There's no VisIt instance installed on the tutorial server (it only
provides an interface using jupyter notebooks, no X11 server access).

I believe Steve has written some Python code to visualize CarpetX data.

Yours,
Roland

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> Javiera
> 
> Unfortunately I don't recall what software is installed on the ETK tutorial 
> server... I'm sure someone else can help us out here?
> 
> -erik
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2025, at 12:17, Javiera Hernández Morales 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Erik,
> > 
> > Thanks for your answer. Maybe for more context I should mention that I am 
> > starting to learn how to use the ETK, and for that I am using the notebooks 
> > provided in the tutorial server (etk.cct.lsu.edu 
> > <http://etk.cct.lsu.edu/>), together with some of the ones used for the 
> > last ETK workshop.
> > 
> > To answer your last question, I am not doing anything specific with the 
> > output, I wanted to get 3D data to see if that could help me visualise the 
> > output of the examples I did with the WaveToyX thorn.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I am not familiar with SILO, so I tried to use the 1D .tsv 
> > files, but they only provide the values in a slice (for example the wave as 
> > a function of x, for y=z=0), but I wanted to create a 3D plot similar to 
> > the one found in the CreatingANewThorn-WaveEqn notebook from the tutorial 
> > server (I leave a screenshot attached), that is why I thought of outputting 
> > 3D.
> > 
> > To use SILO files I understand that one has to have VisIt installed, 
> > however when I wanted to install it in the tutorial server via terminal, I 
> > got the error that I am not allowed to install software, which I suppose 
> > makes sense.
> > 
> > In principle all I want to do is experiment with the WaveToyX thorn (and 
> > the other examples, like SpacetimeWaveToyX or FluxWaveToyX), changing 
> > parameters and see how things behave, but I am struggling a lot with the 
> > visualisation part. Do you have any recommendations that I could implement 
> > in the environment of the ETK Tutorial server? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Javiera H.M.
> > 
> > <Screen Shot 2025-06-30 at 17.12.42 p.m..png>
> >   
> >> El 30.06.2025, a las 16:45, Erik Schnetter <[email protected]> escribió:
> >> 
> >> Javiera
> >> 
> >> I recommend using 3D output in the way others are. CarpetX supports many 
> >> parameters, but not all parameter combinations are well tested, or are 
> >> intended for production runs.
> >> 
> >> (1, 2) Yes, there are two ways of 3D ASCII (tsv) output. This is very slow 
> >> and is thus only intended for debugging. Therefore it doesn't have all the 
> >> features needed for comfortable output in production runs.
> >> 
> >> (3) Either OpenPMD or Silo output are the preferred ways for production 
> >> runs. These formats are also supported by post-processing and 
> >> visualization tools. These are not file formats, but they only describe 
> >> how the metadata are arranged (i.e. what names the attributes have) in the 
> >> output files. The actual file formats are ADIOS2 (preferred, faster) or 
> >> HDF5. OpenPMD uses ADIOS2 by default, Silo uses HDF5 by default.
> >> 
> >> I do not know why the OpenPMD/HDF5 output is not working. The error 
> >> message doesn't show enough detail.
> >> 
> >> If you want HDF5 output then I recommend using Silo. This will produce an 
> >> HDF5 file. I'm not sure that's what you want because, whatever you are 
> >> going to do with the file, you will need to understand the metadata in the 
> >> file, and thus that tool or script will need to understand either the 
> >> OpenMPD or Silo layout. Otherwise your HDF5 will look like a bag of 3D 
> >> arrays, each array describing a Fortran array, and it will be very 
> >> difficult to find out which component of which variable and which time 
> >> step on which refinement level is stored in what array: That's what the 
> >> metadata describes.
> >> 
> >> On the other hand, if you want to have an easy way to read the file, then 
> >> you could use e.g. the Julia or Python of C++ bindings of the OpenMPD 
> >> library, and you then wouldn't need to care whether the low-level file 
> >> format is ADIOS2 or HDF5.
> >> 
> >> What do you want to do with the 3D output?
> >> 
> >> -erik
> >>   
> >>> On Jun 27, 2025, at 12:54, Javiera Hernández Morales 
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> 
> >>> I am starting to learn the use of CarpetX and for this I started using 
> >>> the WaveToyX thorn. I wanted to ask for guidance for three problems that 
> >>> I have encountered so far, all of them related to the output data:
> >>> 
> >>> 1) I wanted to get 3D data, for example in .tsv format. Here I realised 
> >>> that there is an ambiguous definition in the documentation for the 
> >>> parameter “out_tsv”, which in section 12.1 it says to control TSV output 
> >>> and have default value “yes”, but in section 14 it says to control the 3D 
> >>> output in TSV and have default value “no”. This last behaviour is the one 
> >>> that I encounter when running the parfiles. 
> >>> 
> >>> 2) When I set up “out_tsv" to “yes” and “out_tsv_every” to a number, for 
> >>> example = 16, I get 1D output every 16 iterations, but 3D output in every 
> >>> iteration, therefore I suspect that “out_tsv_every” is only controlling 
> >>> the frequency of the 1D output, and I cannot find a way to control the 
> >>> frequency of 3D output.
> >>> 
> >>> 3) I attempted to output data in HDF5 format but I did not succeed. I 
> >>> first set the parameter “openpmd_format” to “HDF5” and also set 
> >>> “out_openpmd_vars” to the variables that I wanted, but I got an error in 
> >>> the first iteration:
> >>> 
> >>> INFO (CarpetX): OutputGH: iteration 0, time 0.000000, run time 1 s
> >>> INFO (CarpetX): OutputOpenPMD...
> >>> INFO (CarpetX): Creating openPMD object...
> >>> INFO (CarpetX):   options: 
> >>>   {
> >>>     "adios2": {
> >>>       "dataset": {
> >>>         "operators": [
> >>>         ]
> >>>       }
> >>>     }
> >>>   }
> >>> 
> >>> [et-juphub:699479] *** An error occurred in MPI_Comm_create_keyval
> >>> [et-juphub:699479] *** reported by process [211877889,2]
> >>> [et-juphub:699479] *** on communicator MPI_COMM_WORLD
> >>> [et-juphub:699479] *** MPI_ERR_ARG: invalid argument of some other kind
> >>> [et-juphub:699479] *** MPI_ERRORS_ARE_FATAL (processes in this 
> >>> communicator will now abort,
> >>> [et-juphub:699479] ***    and potentially your MPI job)
> >>> [et-juphub:699473] PMIX ERROR: UNREACHABLE in file 
> >>> ../../../src/server/pmix_server.c at line 2193
> >>> [et-juphub:699473] 3 more processes have sent help message 
> >>> help-mpi-errors.txt / mpi_errors_are_fatal
> >>> [et-juphub:699473] Set MCA parameter "orte_base_help_aggregate" to 0 to 
> >>> see all help / error messages
> >>> Simfactory Done at date: Thu 26 Jun 2025 09:19:08 AM UTC
> >>> And I did not know how to move on from there.
> >>> I am working on the ETK Tutorial server, in case that is important.
> >>> Thanks in advance to anyone who took the time to read until here, I will 
> >>> be looking forward to any piece of advice :)
> >>> Best,
> >>> Javiera H.M. 
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Yours,
Roland

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