So the key issue is how Adobe is managing the flash debate, or in fact not, and as long as flash own player these issues will not go away
Flash will be around for years however Adobe will eventually give up on the player, but too late for the world This could all be changed if Adobe was to make flash player open source, just like flex Sent from my iPad > On 26 Jul 2015, at 20:36, "f...@dfguy.us" <f...@dfguy.us> wrote: > > So the comment I have is that the runtime is very different and better than > interpreted html, by definition. That's why having the full runtime available > is so valuable with AIR and the Flash player on desktop and windows tablets. > The way the runtime works is totally different in terms of the full set of > libraries and packages and actionscript language but also the way rendering > takes place. So every object would be like a complete canvas of every feature > that a web browser offers and much more. So instead of individual xml > elements, div etc, being rendered out individually and separately with only a > given set of available properties, all objects in Flash can be modified at > the lowest rendering level and manipulated with any or all available objects > or packages. Similarly, all of this happens within a single layered > environment where objects are displayed transparently on one another. > > So all of the things on the most cutting edge of html today, web components, > es6, data binding, 3d context, CSS transitions and transformations etc, have > always been available in Flex and Flash and rendered in a much better, more > flexible, fully programmable pipeline that makes sense and is easy to use and > understand. > > The fact is that html will never be as good as the runtime because it simply > can't be because it's entire structure and rendering is completely different. > So the best options is for Flex content to basically be read and mapped out > to some corresponding html, which will function in its own constrained way. > > So an example of all of this would be once when I needed to a small graphic > of an arrow pointing down below a pop-up menu in Flex. I was able to target > the actual graphic object itself in actionscript and programmatically create > a vector object I wanted and attach it as a child to the parent object as a > single object oriented component. In html I would have to go to a lot of > trouble to create a bunch of nested elements and put in a separate svg > element or background image and have all sorts of cross browser issues and > the concept of layering the popup would be difficult and confusing. So in > general everything is just simpler, easier and completely better from a > programming perspective. > > That's what it's really all about, Flash is simply the better platform when > you look at it. However with the current state of the market we are all > probably having to work with html based Web apps as well in their own terms > and formats. At least I am ... If given and honest comparison and choice > though it's pretty obvious that Flash/Flex/Air are vastly superior, and they > always have been. > > David H. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffry Houser <jef...@dot-com-it.com> > To: Gerald Hollinka <carioca...@gmail.com>, users@flex.apache.org > Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: The future of Adobe AIR is right? > > > I should have said "Existing Flex Skills"; I did not mean to say > existing Flex code. ;) > > You should thank Alex and the rest of the team. I'm just watching the > FlexJS stuff from the sidelines. > >> On 7/25/2015 6:12 PM, Gerald Hollinka wrote: >> Hi Jeffry!! >> >> Your sentence >> "I believe FlexJS is functional and you'll be able to use your >> existing Flex in the transition to HTML(5) based apps." >> >> is not enough. Your are our heroe. >> So many developers all over the world believe in you. And all you >> could express is ... >> >> a very disappointent Gerry (Austria - Europe) >> >> ps: Your are still my heroe!!!!! >> >> >> >> 2015-07-25 17:58 GMT+02:00 Jeffry Houser <jef...@dot-com-it.com >> <mailto:jef...@dot-com-it.com>>: >> >> >> For specific questions about Adobe AIR; you are going to have to >> ask Adobe. You may start by looking here: >> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html . >> >> 64 bit support for Windows and Mac is listed. in the "New >> Features" section; but no AIR version for Linux has been released >> later than version 3. >> >> I believe FlexJS is functional and you'll be able to use your >> existing Flex in the transition to HTML(5) based apps. >> >> >> On 7/25/2015 10:06 AM, Udirley Otoni Pesse wrote: >> >> Hello, I have several applications in flex which until then >> were being >> executed by the browser, with the increasing bombing the flash >> player has >> been suffering I find it very hard that it lasts for a long >> time, and for >> this reason I'm switching to air adobe, so I no longer use the >> browser. >> But me there arise some questions, which assures me that Adobe >> will >> continue the AIR support? >> There site for dounload can only download for Windows 32 and >> Mac. What >> about Windows 64 and Linux. Am I following the right path? >> I have many time s work and I can not lose them. >> I have eagerly awaited by FlexJS, but I see that the project >> is still at a >> very high level of development and has little documentation. >> I'm being pressured to migrate to HTMH5 but I did not want to, >> I like the >> Flex, but I am employee in a company do not know how long I'll >> be able to >> hold. >> >> I need to make a decision soon, and your opinions will count a >> lot in this >> decision. >> Adobe AIR will be kept? This is a sure future? >> I migrate to AIR? >> You can now use FlexJS? >> >> In short ... I'm desperately trying to save years of work and >> my job. >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeffry Houser >> Technical Entrepreneur >> http://www.jeffryhouser.com >> 203-379-0773 <tel:203-379-0773> > > > -- > Jeffry Houser > Technical Entrepreneur > http://www.jeffryhouser.com > 203-379-0773 > Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. 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