Thanks Om, Great idea (I already up voted it!) However, I think I read somewhere that putting a wrapper around a non-FlexJS component would mean that component couldn't be combined with FlexJS basic (or express?) components on the same screen. Is that true? Since I have a lot of components on my dashboard, it would probably force me to use all FlexJS or non-FlexJS components from the start.
> On August 7, 2017 at 11:24 AM OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I have created a JIRA here: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-35349 for exploring HighCharts > integration in FlexJS. It does not look terribly hard. I just need to find > some time to do it. > > I will keep you posted. > > Thanks, > Om > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com > mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > I know nothing about LogAxis. I’ve personally never done any apps > which use charts, so I’m not really equipped to comment on them. > > > > My app which I’ve migrated does do a LOT of drawing and it was much > > less painful to migrate than I feared. > > > > To figure out how much work it will be to migrate I suggest asking > > the following questions: > > > > 1. What flash APIs are used? Depending on the answer to that > > question, you’ll know how straightforward of a conversion it will be. Some > > APIs have similar counterparts. Others less so. > > 2. What HTML visuals can you use? You need to figure out whether it > > will be drawn using HTML elements, SVG, or Canvas. Each of those have their > > own challenges. FWIW, we have APIs for drawing to SVG which are very > > similar to the Flash Graphic APIs. > > > > I discuss my strategies in migration in my presentation here: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcLs0O-BWQ&index=5&list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcLs0O-BWQ&index=5&list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcLs0O-BWQ&index=5&list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcLs0O-BWQ&index=5&list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > > > > > > The rest of the presentations should be helpful as well: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EsaSA9xpnnraJX7NzpX6eh_P95RO8Pj > > > > > > On Aug 7, 2017, at 6:05 PM, gkk gb <modjkl...@comcast.net > > mailto:modjkl...@comcast.net > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed answers Harbs. > > > > > > > > > Regarding the 'classic Flex chart components' comment, are you > > hinting that ActionScript's LogAxis can likely be migrated to FlexJS? My > > app is built using LogAxis (which I've extended to draw minor tick marks). > > > > > > > > > If I had to build my own log axis, or in general, adding code to > > FlexJS or fixing a bug, is the code written in JS or AS? In other words, > > what knowledge/prerequisites does one need to contribute to FlexJS? > > > > > > > > > I also depend heavily on AMF (BlazeDS) and RemoteObject, but I > > see some work already going on there (which I'm very grateful for). > > > > > >> > > >> On August 7, 2017 at 6:03 AM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com > > mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com > wrote: > > >> > > >>>> > > >>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 2:03 AM, gkk gb > > <modjkl...@comcast.net mailto:modjkl...@comcast.net > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> With flash plugin going away, I'll need to port my Flex > > application to either Air or FlexJS sometime in the next year or two. I > > have a couple initial questions... > > >>> > > >>> Q1. My scientific web app is very data centric, with > > lots of charts. In particular, I depend heavily on log charts. Does FlexJS > > support logarithmic axes? I couldn't find it in the documentation. > > >>> > > >>>> > > >> Charts are currently not an area where work has been done in > > FlexJS. I see two options here: > > >> > > >> 1. If you find JS chart components which do what you want, > > you can probably use them in your project with a thin wrapper. We did this > > with a color picker. > > >> > > >> 2. If you have classic Flex chart components, they can > > likely be migrated to FlexJS. There are many similar drawing commands. > > >> > > >>>> > > >>> Q2. For new projects, could someone help me understand > > the key advantage(s) FlexJS has in the market compared to other > > technologies such as AngularJS, ExtJS, etc.? For example, if you're quoting > > a project to a client, what type of project is in the sweet spot for using > > FlexJS rather than the status quo (whatever that is)? > > >>> > > >>>> > > >> The sweet spot for FlexJS is pretty much the same sweet spot > > that Flash had. If you have a single-page web app and you are familiar with > > Flex and Flash, I think you would find FlexJS many times more productive > > than any of the popular JS frameworks out there. > > >> > > >> Before I started with FlexJS, I did quite a bit of work > > trying to make Angular work for me. I found it to be a horrible experience. > > It’s very unintuitive, hard to organize, slow, very easy to cause > > minification bugs, minification was difficult. etc. > > >> > > >> React is probably the most popular JS framework today > > although Vue.js is giving it a run for the money. Both push declarative > > code like we have with MXML, but my personal opinion is that their > > approaches are more hacky and error prone. > > >> > > >> No matter which framework you pick (other than FlexJS), you > > will be required to deal with deciding what version of JS you write (or > > TypeScript). Unless you write in vanilla JS, you will need to pick a > > compiler (i.e. Webpack or Babel). You will need to deal with all the > > idiosyncrasies of transpiling and minification. You will probably need to > > find components that fit your needs and get that to work. You’ll need to > > write HTML and CSS directly in addition to your JS code. > > >> > > >> The beauty of FlexJS, is that all of that is taken care of > > you by the compiler. For the most part, you don’t need to know the > > intricacies (weirdness?) of css. You don’t need to figure out exactly which > > HTML elements and attributes you need. You don’t need to worry about how to > > load myriad HTML, CSS and JS files. You don’t need to worry about > > combining, trimming and minifying all your dependencies. etc. > > >> > > >>>> > > >>> Q3. What is the goal of FlexJS release 1.0, and when > > will it likely occur? Is it expected to be enough to develop a basic, real, > > app that is robust/bug-free? > > >>> > > >>>> > > >> We’re working towards 1.0. Exactly which feature warrent > > being called “1.0” is a matter of discussion. As far as being enough to > > build a basic real app? It’s there already. I have a number of apps I built > > using FlexJS. Some are panels for InDesign which are already being used by > > my clients. Another is a VERY complex web app which will be going into > > production soon. It’s a bit bleeding edge, but I’m definitely way more > > productive than I would be in any of the standard JS frameworks. > > >> > > >>>> > > >>> Q4. Compared to other HTML technologies, will there will > > a lot of maintenance of FlexJS code when browsers get updated, for example, > > that break previous code, in the same way that JS/HTML development has > > today? Flex/Flash plug-in spoiled me in that regard (maintenance free). Now > > that the shoe will be on the other foot, so I wonder what to expect in > > terms of maintenance; will it be a matter of filing a JIRA bug for example?. > > >>> > > >>>> > > >> We try very hard to abstract away browser inconsistencies. I > > think it’s pretty good, although there are probably some edge cases. This > > is a problem inherent in JS development, but FlexJS is likely better than > > most. > > >> > > >> Harbs > > >> > > > > > > > >