I pasted it, but too far down so you may have missed it:
Try:
var containerChild:Container = tn.getChildAt(i) as Container;
containerChild.createComponentsFromDescriptors();
HTH,
-Alex
On 2/11/19, 7:38 PM, "Paul Stearns" <[email protected]> wrote:
Alex:
Is there an analogous section of code for 3.5 I can go look at?
If so where can I find it?
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From: Alex Harui <[email protected]>
Sent: 2/11/19 10:05 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Profiling
Re-adding users@ Please figure out why the ML keeps getting dropped.
I forgot you are using 3.x
From: Paul Stearns
Reply-To: "[email protected]"
Date: Monday, February 11, 2019 at 6:56 PM
To: Alex Harui
Subject: Re: Profiling
Alex:
I had tried that, but INavigatorContent is not found. I tried to manually
add;
import mx.core.INavigatorContent;
That didn't help either. Perhaps it is called something different in v3.6?
Try:
var containerChild:Container = tn.getChildAt(i) as Container;
containerChild.createComponentsFromDescriptors();
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From: Alex Harui
Sent: 2/11/19 7:39 PM
To: "[email protected]" , "[email protected]"
Subject: Re: Profiling
If you have a TabNavigator in a variable/id "tn",
Then you should be able to write:
var containerChild:INavigatorContent = tn.getChildAt(i) as
INavigatorContent;
containerChild.createDeferredContent();
HTH,
-Alex
On 2/11/19, 4:37 PM, "Paul Stearns" wrote:
Alex:
I am not sure how I can use the link you referenced. I thought perhaps I
could use "containerChild.createDeferredContent " but I am unable to find any
components it is applicable to.
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From: Alex Harui
Sent: 2/11/19 4:07 PM
To: "[email protected]" , "[email protected]"
Subject: Re: Profiling
Re-adding users@
IIRC, the key piece is a loop in ViewStack’s setActualCreationPolicies
(around line 1058)
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fflex-sdk%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fframeworks%2Fprojects%2Fmx%2Fsrc%2Fmx%2Fcontainers%2FViewStack.as&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ce880fe44cbad4a0807dd08d6909b9b73%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636855395337154782&sdata=zlVEFW7Tavv0sBLiOCd4jGkijeyPTsFd88XD9Bg7L6o%3D&reserved=0
It calls each child’s createDeferredContent(). The trick is to figure out
when to call it on each child. Apparently, calling it on all 9 other tabs at
once causes so much code to run that it freezes the UI.
Like the magicians I referred to upthread, it is important to know your
audience. If the user is typing, it is hard to sneak in one second of
computation. If the user is not typing and moving a mouse, you might be able to
get away with a one second pause. But if a user makes a query, they might
expect a pause and if the query is asynchronous, that’s a good time to sneak in
some computation. And if 90% of the users go to tab 2, that may be the only one
you need to initialize during the query. And then initialize the other 8 when
the results come back and the user is pondering the results.
Or maybe they will put up with 9 one-second pauses while they are typing
and all you have to do is use callLater to “unravel” the loop. Put the iterator
in a variable, call one createDeferredContent, (and maybe validateNow()) then
increment the variable and callLater.
HTH,
-Alex
From: Paul Stearns
Reply-To: "[email protected]"
Date: Monday, February 11, 2019 at 4:37 AM
To: Alex Harui
Subject: Re: Profiling
Alex:
I would like to take a middle road...
Upon startup there are a number of combo boxes which get populated. Then
the user enters some query data, a query is performed and the rest get
populated.
I took the time to rewrite the initialization of the 22 combo boxes using
bindable Array Collections so that the TabNavigator can load just the 1st page.
I would like to have each of the hidden tabs populate while waiting for the
user to enter the query data. I have been unable to find how to tell each
hidden tab to render individually.
You mention Initializing tabs, code wise, how is that accomplished? I've
tried a few things with no luck.
I found that I can define the TabNavigator's creationPolicy as "auto", wait
until the 1st tab is rendered, and switch the TabNavigator's creation policy to
"all" it will then populate the other 9 tabs. This does show the first tab much
quicker but it doesn't allow the entry of data until all of the other tabs are
rendered. I was hoping to be able to do the callLater trick to give a break in
between each load. Somewhat similar to a .NET Application.doevents().
I will look into the "magical" reference material you mentioned.
________________________________
From: Alex Harui
Sent: 2/11/19 12:12 AM
To: "[email protected]" , "[email protected]"
Subject: Re: Profiling
There are several ways.
The "theoretical" way is to rewrite your code. Populating ComboBoxes on
hidden tabs is not a recommended practice. That is effectively having code in
the app "pushing data down" into the controls. Instead, in any pattern that has
MV in it, the recommended practice is that the components pull what they need
from a model. If you do that rewrite, you may find that each Tab loads
sufficiently fast when clicked on "on-demand". Maybe a busy cursor spins for a
few seconds. Web pages often take a few seconds to load. But that may be a
better experience than waiting 30 seconds for the first screen to show up.
Related, any tab that takes a few seconds to load may have its own "push
data down" code in it and is initializing controls that may be in a sub-tab or
has even sucked in a module or two. Profile each slow Tab and see what is going
on.
The "hacky" way is to use Pseudo-Threads. There are fancy Pseudo-Thread
patterns, but the cheapest one is just a chain of CallLater functions. Maybe
each one initializes a Tab then callLater's the function to initialize the next
Tab. Still to slow? Then initialize half a Tab and callLater to initialize the
other half.
Other ideas involve re-designing the UI to use more deferred-instantiation
components.
FWIW, many years ago I saw a great presentation on UI design by a magician.
He talked about understanding human behavior to create illusions. There is also
a classic book called "Computers As Theatre" by Brenda Laurel. In live theatre
(as opposed to movies), there is the reality of having to find ways to get
people and props on and off the stage without distracting the audience. These
ideas can apply to problems like this one. If you know that folks will dwell on
the first screen for N seconds before they can even decide what to click on,
then you've got N seconds to initialize stuff in a pseudo-thread. If you have
Tabs that scroll, you can just initialize the first screenful of UI widgets,
then you probably have another second or two to initialize stuff off-screen.
Busy cursors, UI effects, progressive reveals are all techniques that can be
used to create the illusion that the UI is ready to go, when in reality, your
stage crew is hustling in the dark behind the sofa.
HTH,
-Alex
On 2/10/19, 4:57 AM, "Paul Stearns" wrote:
OK, I downloaded Scout & ScoutEnabler. I learned enough to be able to run
it and I found the problem area.
The swf in question has 10 tabs with more than 300 objects spread among the
tabs. The TabNavigator has creationPolicy="all" set so that once the swf is
loaded the "as" code can start populating various comboBoxes and other
components on the hidden tabs.
My working hypothesis is flash get's "hung" building all those components
at once.
If this is the case, how can I get rid of creationPolicy="all" and once the
screen becomes visible, force the creation of all the hidden tabs before I try
to populate them? While this may take a little longer, it would provide a
better user interface.
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From: "Paul Stearns"
Sent: 2/10/19 6:55 AM
To: "[email protected]"
Subject: Profiling
I have a routine that "disappears" for a few seconds. I would like to turn
profiling on just before this begins and off when it comes back. Is this
possible?
Since the app does many things, I want to isolate just this section where
as far as I can tell it is not executing any code from my application.
I am currently using FlexBuilder 3, but will use whatever is available as
long as the learning curve isn't too steep and it works with my 3.6 code.
