Hi :)
I am actually having a lot of trouble with Windows Xp right now trying to get 
the drivers for an onboard ethernet port.  Ubuntu picked it up right away but 
Xp claims there is no spoon (oops, i mean connection)

Often if 1 distro can pick it up and another can't then it's quite possible to 
get the thing working on any distro but it helps to find a forum where someone 
can help.  Also if a Windows driver does exist then it should be possible to 
use "ndiswrapper" to use that Windows driver in whichever Gnu&Linux distro you 
are trying to work on.  Again it helps to have some forum help.  Perhaps 
http://www.linuxquestions.org

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Tue, 24/7/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmas...@krackedpress.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Migrating from Windows; take it slow
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 15:21


LiveCD/DVD is the only way to see as many distros as possible to figure out 
which one may be best for you.  Even though there are limits on what you can do 
with a LiveCD, it was the only way I knew of, back then, to really decide which 
version of Linux, and desktop environment I wanted to use.

As for Banking and other things on Windows, there are "secure" browsing apps 
that will not leave any traces.  There are even ones that will hide who you are 
from the web sites through a portal service where you can browse in safety 
knowing the web sites will get no info from your system, since they only see 
what the service lets them see - false stuff.  I do not remember where you can 
get these services anymore, but in the mid 2000's I saw a few of them when I 
was looking for free services to help with Windows security problems.

Back to Windows to Linux. . . .

Well, I remember the days when I had to try different version of Linux via a 
Windows VM system.  Back then Mandrake, Red Hat, and others tried in that 
classroom environment.  That is when I decided that Linux might be something to 
try out on a "spare" computer.  All I had in those days were P4 based systems 
running 333MHz to 500MHz for CPUs.

Now it is much easier to see a lot of different distros, as long as you have 
the bandwidth to download .iso files of their LiveCDs or Live DVDs.  I think I 
still have about 5 or 10 different distro and desktop environment combinations 
on Live "media" in my software drawer.  That drawer had mostly Windows software 
and the media I got with my computers, printers, and other hardware, but I keep 
Linux related CDs and DVDs there as well.  It is a 36" by 18" by 8" and it is 
stuffed.

But, for now, if you are a Windows user, I really believe that you take it slow 
and keep both your Windows system and a Linux system going at the same time.  
If you have the hard drive space, a dual boot option seems a good one when you 
do not have a spare system. I use a Dell Laptop with Vista as my dual booting 
system.  I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on it, then upgraded it to 12.04 a few months 
ago, but decided I did not like the Unity/tablet style of desktop and added 
MATE desktop environment to it.  If you like using Ubuntu 10.04's GNOME 2.x 
desktop, this works better than any GNOME option that 12.04 comes with.  MATE 
works as a 12.04 replacement for the type of desktop I got use to with my 
desktop, which I still run 10.04 on.

The big issue for most people who go from Windows to Linux, is the lack of 
drivers for some older hardware [dedicated drivers for very specific hardware] 
that use USB or are specialty cards.  Then their may be problems with drivers 
for the most up-to-date printers and their extra non-printing functions.  Epson 
printer/scanners have problems with the scanner part for some distro versions.  
HP seems to work the best for Printer and Scanner options for Linux systems, or 
at least in my case.

So the big issue with some people will be finding a distro that works with all 
their hardware.  Live media version of a Linux version does help there.  If 
your hardware works then and there, you are set.  My HP laptop had problems 
finding a distro that would work with its sound system.  That was in the days 
of Ubuntu 9.04, and that was the only LiveCD version that worked with that 
laptop's audio system.  HP Pavilion zv6123 AMD64 Athlon powered laptop.  I no 
longer need it to be my Linux system, so it is back to XP/pro and it is used as 
my primary laptop I take to users who need help with their Windows systems.  I 
have a faster laptop, Dell, but I rather not take it if I can.


On 07/24/2012 09:26 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> That sounds the perfect way to try it.
> 
> Tim (Webmaster at Kracked Press) made a good point about trying LiveCds to 
> just test-drive various distros.  Trying a few is really ideal.
> 
> Ubuntu might be a good one to start with but it is designed to be comparable 
> with the latest Windows so it is often more heavy and bloated than other 
> distros.  Fedora is quite good because it also tries to be quite plug&play 
> but it's often the experimental cutting-edge and used as the test-bed for 
> trying apps ahead of other distros (well, ahead of Redhat at least).  Anyway 
> the best thing is to try a few distros to see what works best for you on your 
> machine and then install it.  All distros cover the middle-ground and a 
> wide-spread of different machines but each distro seems slightly better at 
> certain wacky combinations of real-world machines.  Does anyone really have a 
> 'typical' machine in a 'normal' set-up??
> 
> I really wish Windows had an equivalent of the LiveCd session that almost 
> every distro seems to have these days.  I think if i did internet banking i 
> would want to always do it from a LiveCd and thus leave no trace of it on 
> which-ever machine.
> 
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 24/7/12, Chaim Seymour <chaim.seym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Chaim Seymour <chaim.seym...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Migrating from Windows; take it slow
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 14:02
> 
> Hi
> 
> I can offer another option, which I find very satisfactory. My previous
> laptop had windows vista and was unsatisfactory. When I bought a new
> computer (with Windows 7), I formatted the disk on the old computer and
> installed Linux. I tried 2 or 3 different linux packages and since my
> computer was weak, I settled for Fedora which seems to use less resources
> than Ubuntu.
> 
> The computer used to get very hot with Vista, but behaves much better with
> Linux.
> 
> I use both laptops in parallel, but tend to use the Linux more.
> 
> Chaim
> 
> On 24 July 2012 12:36, Keith Bainbridge <keithrbaugro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:41:59 -0400 webmaster-Kracked_P_P
>> <webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote:
>>> Anyone who really wants to learn how to use Linux as a replacement
>>> for Windows, try dual booting a system if you do not have a spare one
>>> to try Linux with as its only OS.
>> 
>> G'day.
>> 
>> 
>> The other option for the odd trip back to windows is virtualisation.
>> Mostly, you can tell the system to let windows use a device as if you
>> had booted into windows
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Keith Bainbridge
>> PO Box 324
>> BELMONT Vic 3216 Australia
>>    +61 (0)408 522 706
>> 
>> keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com
>> 
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