Tom, well done.

       Maybe those at LO will listen, but I don't know what more they could
do;
           the problem probably originates from the States due to the
massive use of MSFT products ... hackers attack these ... MSFT responds
with their endless stream of fixes ... hackers continue to attack the
loop-holes ... ... ...
              yet folks still are afraid to get away from MSFT products  ;-)



On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi :)
> I have forwarded this to the marketing team for them to discuss because
> there are a lot of the BoD on that list.  However i am far more unpopular
> there than i am on this list so they will probably just ignore it as
> "trolling" or some-such.
>
> If, like me, you want to see LO succeed and believe some of these issue
> may indeed be "holding LO back" or setting up bigger problems for the
> future then feel free to take up the discussion there or even better
> forwards it to the "discuss" list.
>
> I think the original op of this thread wanted to avoid getting bogged down
> in all this and just wanted practical comments on issues arising from
> trying to share with the 90% (or thereabouts, depending on geography) of
> computer users that still use MSO.  Perhaps just a few pointers on how to
> get better results from sharing.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> From: Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office
> Users?
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 8 August, 2012, 3:26
>
> On 08/07/2012 08:24 PM, rob wood wrote:
> > >From my experience of working in the IT department of a very large
> college
> > with over 10 000 computers, it has nothing to do with functionality.
> 99.9%
> > of employees use office to type letters and send emails. For the .1% that
> > would use advanced features, policy probably disallows them anyway. Plus,
> > it is fairly trivial to have different images for those that need/want
> them.
> >
> > The reason they don't migrate is because it would create more work for
> the
> > IT department, it is that simple. Plus there is no benefit as far as the
> IT
> > department is concerned. Office 2003 works, and whoever approves the
> budget
> > is just going to accept however much is put in there for it, that is if
> it
> > is actually a separate item and not bundled in with the other microsoft
> > licences.
> >
> > Office = safe.
> > LO = risky + more work.
> I would second that most users do not use advanced features of any the
> MSO parts. Very few can actually program/write a macro and macro
> execution should normally be turned off for security reasons.
>
> The reasons for not updating MSO version or using another office suite
> (LO, AOO, etc) are roll out costs, roll out time, inertia (no real
> business reason to change), and perceptions about users finding the new
> suite difficult to use.
> >
> >
> > On 8 August 2012 00:11, Steve Morris <samor...@netspace.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Just my 2 cents worth. Businesses with a heavy investment in office
> can't
> >> migrate to LO, as LO is not a functional replacement for office 2002,
> let
> >> alone 2010. A lot of business functionality that is used from day to day
> >> and is critical to the organisation in order for their various business
> >> units to operate, from say excel, that libreoffice does not provide,
> even
> >> in 3.6, and features that excel allows that Calc disallows (as far as I
> can
> >> see for no good reason). Another reason for not migrating is also the
> steep
> >> learning curve, both with front end functionality and macros, that
> business
> >> cannot afford to undertake due to the loss of time and resources.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Steve
> >>
>
>
> --
> Jay Lozier
> jsloz...@gmail.com
>
>

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