Actually, Jay, I have found the transitions from MSOffice normally quite
easy, both with LO and OO; it may be that I automate so few things, and I
certainly would appreciate a "cheat sheet," but it's not a "deal killer"
for me personally. Sometimes I think people TELL you they don't want to
change because it's "difficult," but the real reason is something
else--corporate environment, etc.  I've become addicted to open source
software (Scribus, Gimp...) because it works, it's easy to get the new
releases, and for the most part, it's very satisfactory.  There will always
be a few aficionados who want things "just like" Word, etc., but I doubt
they will ever change.
Steve Bradley


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/14/2012 04:03 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
>
>> I like that idea charles. I remember the Wordperfect sheet and even shor
>> tcuts you stuck on the top of the keyboard. I have not used word past 6.0
>> for dos, so for me it would be useful for me to explain to someone using
>> word what I am doing in LO.
>> steve
>>
>>  +1
> Like Steve I rarely use Word so I do not specifically remember MSO layout.
>
>>
>> On 2012-11-15 09:17, charles meyer wrote:
>>
>>> There are still many Word 2003 users as 2007 did not offer many
>>> spectacular advances (especially for the price so many businesses,
>>> educational and nonprofit orgs, gov't, etc. did not "upgrade" to the
>>> ribbons.
>>>
>>> I found the ribbons at work not to be a problem as others did but
>>> there are plenty of 2003 Word users who still will not be upgrade into
>>> 2010, 2013, etc. because many have found it's diminishing returns. It
>>> costs a lot of time (training, classes, tutorials, trial and error)
>>> and money (training, money lost while being trained) to "re-learn"
>>> Word with each upgrade and the returns have been found by many to be
>>> minimal in comparison to the costs.
>>>
>>> Here's my bold proposal, s'il vous plaƮt?
>>>
>>> How about if we (end users) on this list all contribute our shortcuts
>>> we've learned transitioning from Word (2003, 2007) to Libre Office?
>>>
>>> We could create on our own a chart with column headings ...
>>>
>>> Ex.
>>>
>>> Function            Libre Writer        Word 2003    Word 2007
>>> Set default font    ?????            xxxxx        xxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> .... much like WordPerfect did many years ago where you can look at
>>> the chart for a function (e.g. changing the default font for all
>>> documents created) and next to that have the method used in Libre
>>> Writer and next to that the method the method used in Word 2003 and
>>> next that Word 2007.
>>>
>>> Along the way we can all contribute to each of those columns what we
>>> have learned.
>>>
>>> Many Word and WordPerfect users I speak with won't use Libre Writer
>>> because of the learning curve. They already spent a lot of time (and
>>> often aggravation) leaning Word 2003, 2007 and/or the latest WP
>>> development their attitude is - "Oh, no! Not another one!"
>>>
>>> But, if they could get up to speed quickly with a "cheat sheet" with
>>> at least the most often used features/functions of a word processor
>>> like Libre Writer then they would be more apt to use it and more
>>> likely not feel they have to buy another Word version.
>>>
>>> There was a time when users were afraid of Open Source software. Early
>>> versions may have been too complicated, too many bugs or they would
>>> hear of the apocryphal (often unfounded) tales of the horrors of Open
>>> Source software.
>>>
>>> That's no longer true. Users learned over time the world would not end
>>> if they didn't use Internet Explorer to browse the web - that Firefox
>>> and Opera actually worked just fine and attracted less badware.
>>>
>>> They they tried Thunderbird, pdf995 and Audacity and lo and behold
>>> they not only worked well and easier their friends and family still
>>> loved them...as much as they ever did or could.
>>>
>>> So, as users became more educated about Open Source software they
>>> realized they could use it, it wouldn't make their heads explode and
>>> they enjoyed pocketing all their savings.
>>>
>>> They also learned there were some great forums on the net where you
>>> could reach out to other users and they would share their workable
>>> solutions.
>>>
>>> So, what do you say?!
>>>
>>> Shall we start on that chart and slowly but surely fill it in along
>>> the way and educate others about how Libre Writer can be their
>>> wordoprocessor of choice?
>>>
>>> Or we could just eat dark chocolate.
>>>
>>> It's all good.
>>>
>>> Charles.
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison
>>> Chart
>>> From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmas...@krackedpress.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:33:25 -0500
>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>>
>>> WE do need to have some document comparing MSO [2003, 2007, 2010, and
>>> 2013] with LibreOffice as part of a Marketing Tool.  We need to be
>>> able to show our users that what they are using MSO for, they can use
>>> LO to do the same.
>>>
>>> There are many advantages in using LO instead of MSO, besides the
>>> price of the software, and we need to have some "official"
>>> list/document from LO/TDF that describes these advantages.
>>>
>>> YES - I would like to see a chart comparing features with MSO. The
>>> last one I used was MSO2003, but we need to have LO compared to MSO
>>> 2010/13 as well.  2010 is the current version and we need to compare
>>> LO with MS's current package.  It would be nice to get a MSO2013 beta
>>> and see how LO compares with that package.
>>>
>>> I know that there are differences in the UI, but the functions are the
>>> important part.  Import/Export filters.  MSO does not have a Draw
>>> style package, as far as I remember.  Things like that.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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