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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi :) > I think that link didn't work. Well, it didn't for me anyway. It just > gave me a search-engine list of articles about Java. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > From: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> > > To: Tom <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> > > Cc: Stuart <vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu>; Users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2012, 21:00 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's > the accessibility? > > > > Here's a listing of alternative java programs - > > > > > http://www.techsupportalert.com/search/google/java?query=java&cx=partner-pub-4337260311855789%3A5365410881&cof=FORID%3A10&sitesearch=&safe=high > > > > along with discussion from various users. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, V Stuart Foote > > <vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu>wrote: > > > > Tom, > >> > >> Probably, I'm pretty certain this issue has actually been with us since > >> the Java JRE 1.6 -> JRE 1.7 crossover. It impacts usability with AT > > because > >> large segments of the GUI are no longer functional with screen and > brail > >> readers under JRE 1.7's Java Accessibility API even though the JAB is > >> appears to be delivering identical roles and obejcts. > >> > >> For now, rolling back to a JRE 1.6 and its more functional JAAPI may be > >> the best suggestion for LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice users in > need of > >> AT. The Java dependency may eventually be dropped, depending on where > >> things go with BASE and HSQLDB and implementing a non-Java > accessibility > >> bridge based AT for Windows, i.e.an IAccessible2 implementation or > >> possibly an AT-SPI2 port. > >> > >> Question beside the workaround of using a JRE 1.6, is if there is much > >> developer and TDF Board desire to repair AT and possibly BASE for use > with > >> JRE 1.7 and a more current HSQLDB build. > >> > >> Stuart > >> > >> > >> From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] > >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:45 AM > >> To: Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org > >> Cc: V Stuart Foote > >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility? > >> > >> Hi :) > >> Should the devs be made aware of problems with the newer release of > Java > >> (again)? > >> > >> Each new release of Java creates more problems and each is soon found > to > >> have more security issues so another new one needs to be released > quickly. > >> It's a 3rd party product that is difficult to track. > >> > >> Regards from > >> Tom :) > >> > >> > >> From: V Stuart Foote <vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu> > >> To: accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org > >> Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012, 16:13 > >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility? > >> > >> Simon, > >> > >> There appears to be a change in the JRE 1.7 and JAB 2.0.3 that is > reducing > >> the fidelity of the Java Accessibility API rendering of both > LibreOffice > >> and > >> OpenOffice. This is affecting both NVDA and Jaws screen readers. > >> > >> I've been unable to find any Oracle documentation on API changes from > > the > >> 2.02 to 2.03 JAB or JAAPI, but something is definitely changed. > Reviewing > >> the JAB delivered document structure with JavaMonkey shows the 2.02 > >> rendering to be identical with the 2.0.3 rendering--but with JRE 1.7 > its > >> JAAPI appears to process the result differently and does not fully > render > >> the results in either screen reader. > >> > >> Are you able to roll back to JRE 1.6 and a JAB 2.0.2 installation and > >> retest the issues you've had with LibreOffice 3.6.4? And otherwise > > asses AT > >> usability with the earlier Java runtimes? > >> > >> Downloads needed to roll back are here: > >> > >> JRE 1.6u38 > >> < > >> > > > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u38-downloads-1877409.html > >> > > >> JWin.exe installer for JAB 2.0.2 < > >> http://empowermentzone.com/JWin_setup.exe> > >> > >> > >> Stuart > >> > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted