Thanks for this summation - as for now, it's 'clear as mud' ;-)
Felmon - I'm studying the page you sent me. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: Hi :) > Programs with tk (or more usually gtk) at the end or at the beginning are > for a one type of DE for Gnu&Linux. Sometimes a G is used instead. The > other main type of DE usually has K or Qt at the front of it's programs. > > Often programs have a "back-end" or "command-line" tool that does most of > the heavy lifting and then different "front-ends" or "Gui"s are put on for > each of the 2 main types. > > Typically we talk about families of distros but even a single distro might > have 2 or 3 versions with each one having a different type of DE. If you > choose the 'wrong one' then you can choose whether to install the other DE > or get a different version of the distro that does have the 'right one'. > Tim at Kracked Press has somethings he likes in each of the main DEs so he > installs both. It makes his system a bit more bloated but means he can use > choose more apps. > > DE = Desktop Environment. The main 2 are Gnome and KDE. Most of the rest > (Xfce, Unity, Enlightenment and probably hundreds more) tend to be able to > use front-ends written for one or the other. > > Ok, so it's not quite that simple. 2 extra wrinkles; > 1. Gtk or tk are pretty rarely used but are for the Xfce DE (well really > a WM (=window manager (note the lower-case w)) but that is nearly a DE) and > Xfce apps work well in Gnome. Gnome is a bit heftier (a bit more "fully > functionally" if you know what i mean) so it's fairly normal to find a G > (stands for Gnome) instead of the rarer Gtk but then that's a pain because > the app might need a 3rd front-end instead of just having 2 to reach > everyone. > 2. Going back to seeing the K at the beginning of apps written for KDE > makes sense but why the Qt? Well, until recently Qt was less streamlined > and was a lot of the weight in KDE. Now it is a lot faster and lighter it > seems that Gnome or distros using Gnome have pulled it in but just not > quite enough of it for Tim's requirements. > 3. Since Gnome often can run apps built for the 3 main DEs shouldn't that > make it the DE of choice!? Oddly not. It's been forked in at least 2 or 3 > different directions and in Ubuntu it's been replaced by Unity (which can > also run a lot of the Gnome, Xfce or KDE apps but is extremely unpopular > amongst purists) > > I hope that helps!! I hope i got it about right too otherwise i'm going > to get deluged with unwanted flaming or something! Something i like about > Gnu&Linux is the passion and that we go all sorts of different ways but > somehow manage to grow and learn from each other or make use of each others > achievements and even build on them (if individuals are gifted enough) > Regards from > Tom :) > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> > *To:* Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> > *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org > *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013, 16:29 > > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem > > Curiously wondering what this 'new' PDFtk is - > and how to acquire it ... > or is this something only for Linux users ;-) > > The longer I'm on this amazing list, the more I'm learning about > these 'glorified-typewriters' :-) > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Felmon Davis <dav...@union.edu> wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, David Ronis wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Jay, > >> > >> Thanks for the reply. I'm using Linux (Slackware). Unfortunately, > >> exporting to text is not an option here as the PDF's contain various > >> drawings that can't be omitted. > >> > >> David > >> > > > > what format does this 'single file' have to be in? if it can be itself a > > pdf then use pdftk. > > > > pdftk allows you to 'join' multiple pdfs into one. > > > > take the .doc stuff and convert to pdf then put it all together via > pdftk. > > > > the syntax for pdftk is a bit weird (I find it hard to remember) but at > > the same time very simple. > > > > Felmon > > > > > > > >> From: Jay Lozier <jsloz...@gmail.com> > >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing PDF problem > >> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:18:42 -0400 > >> > >> On 04/05/2013 04:18 PM, David Ronis wrote: > >> > >>> I'm currently working on a large project that requires me to import > many > >>> documents from my colleagues, some in word or PDF formats, into a > single > >>> file. Libreoffice doesn't work if I try Insert->File... on a PDF file > >>> (I get an error popup saying Error rereading the file). > >>> > >>> I can open the PDF file (in draw) and cut and paste each PDF page into > >>> the document, but that is painful. > >>> > >>> Is there a way to make File->Insert work, perhaps via a macro? If not, > >>> consider this a feature request. > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >>> What OS are you using? > >> > >> In some pdf readers you can export the entire file as a plain text file > >> and this file can be opened in Writer or imported into Calc. I do not > >> know if this would less or more painful. You would have the entire file > >> at once but would need to format the text. > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > Felmon Davis > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted